31 May 2009, 11:52 pm
01 Jun 2009, 1:19 am
velodog wrote:
The process is actually very simple.
1. Place cigarette ( or pipe, cigar or joint ) in mouth.
2. Strike match or flick lighter to create a small flame.
3. Apply small fire produced in step 2 to tobacco or other product being lit.
4. Inhale while flame is being applied to tobacco, pot etc.
5. Continue inhaling and exhaling smoke as needed.
See, it is really not hard to figure out.
1. Place cigarette ( or pipe, cigar or joint ) in mouth.
2. Strike match or flick lighter to create a small flame.
3. Apply small fire produced in step 2 to tobacco or other product being lit.
4. Inhale while flame is being applied to tobacco, pot etc.
5. Continue inhaling and exhaling smoke as needed.
See, it is really not hard to figure out.
All you have to do is add the prefix 'dont' & youve also got a great concise guide to not smoking - genius!
Again pretty basic stuff when you think it through logically, yet some people manage to write endless books about it, get themselves hypnotised, take yet more (!?) drugs...
01 Jun 2009, 10:20 am
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01 Jun 2009, 12:53 pm
02 Jun 2009, 7:43 pm
amazon_television wrote:
Asmodeus wrote:
amazon_television wrote:
???
In pretty much every natural environment there is a specific niche for eating rotting material. Some animals can handle that kind of thing, others can't, and like I said, they all know the difference.
The only way a spider monkey is going to die from eating rotting fermented fruit is if it gets hammered and plummets 200 feet to its death out of a gigantic rainforest tree. And they are aware enough of what they're getting into that when they pass out drunk in the treetops they make sure to wrap their prehensile tails around a branch beforehand so they don't fall.
In pretty much every natural environment there is a specific niche for eating rotting material. Some animals can handle that kind of thing, others can't, and like I said, they all know the difference.
The only way a spider monkey is going to die from eating rotting fermented fruit is if it gets hammered and plummets 200 feet to its death out of a gigantic rainforest tree. And they are aware enough of what they're getting into that when they pass out drunk in the treetops they make sure to wrap their prehensile tails around a branch beforehand so they don't fall.
Indeed it's unlikely an animal would get in some fatal accident, the risk involved would be whatever else is in this fermented stuff other than yeast. Botulism, for example.
I suggest you refer back to your original post, and then read this:
drunken monkey hypothesis
Of course, it's just a theory, but in developing the theory, it's been observed that animals show a distinct preference for the fruits that are not "excessively" rotten, and hence the ones that have not been completely taken over by all that bad stuff you speak of.
Like I said, they know what they are doing. If they eat something that is so rotten that it has botulism or some other rugged bacteria running rampant in it, the animal was probably desperate and likely to die of starvation anyway.
It's not found in it's natural environment, but meh.
02 Jun 2009, 7:55 pm
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03 Jun 2009, 12:38 am
Asmodeus wrote:
amazon_television wrote:
Asmodeus wrote:
amazon_television wrote:
???
In pretty much every natural environment there is a specific niche for eating rotting material. Some animals can handle that kind of thing, others can't, and like I said, they all know the difference.
The only way a spider monkey is going to die from eating rotting fermented fruit is if it gets hammered and plummets 200 feet to its death out of a gigantic rainforest tree. And they are aware enough of what they're getting into that when they pass out drunk in the treetops they make sure to wrap their prehensile tails around a branch beforehand so they don't fall.
In pretty much every natural environment there is a specific niche for eating rotting material. Some animals can handle that kind of thing, others can't, and like I said, they all know the difference.
The only way a spider monkey is going to die from eating rotting fermented fruit is if it gets hammered and plummets 200 feet to its death out of a gigantic rainforest tree. And they are aware enough of what they're getting into that when they pass out drunk in the treetops they make sure to wrap their prehensile tails around a branch beforehand so they don't fall.
Indeed it's unlikely an animal would get in some fatal accident, the risk involved would be whatever else is in this fermented stuff other than yeast. Botulism, for example.
I suggest you refer back to your original post, and then read this:
drunken monkey hypothesis
Of course, it's just a theory, but in developing the theory, it's been observed that animals show a distinct preference for the fruits that are not "excessively" rotten, and hence the ones that have not been completely taken over by all that bad stuff you speak of.
Like I said, they know what they are doing. If they eat something that is so rotten that it has botulism or some other rugged bacteria running rampant in it, the animal was probably desperate and likely to die of starvation anyway.
It's not found in it's natural environment, but meh.
I'm not sure I see what that has to do with consumption of fermented fruits, maybe you are making a joke and I'm missing it.
Also, if my last post was confusing, I apologize--when I said to "refer to your original post" I actually was referring to your second post in the thread. My bad.
At any rate, I feel like this discussion may be taking on some passive-aggressive undertones, and if that's how you're planning on coming at me then this is not worth my time. If I'm wrong about this perception, then by all means carry on. I'd LOVE to be proven wrong on this, because the end result will be my having learned something about a topic in which I feel fairly secure in my knowledge. There will be no hard feelings on my end.
