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15 Nov 2017, 2:04 am

...The meal/function " tea " or " high tea " tends to suggest a kind of little-old-lady mild pretense...Sohthern more, again, or old-guard East Coast. I will agree that a lot of now more British terms were in wider use prior to the Sixties or thereabouts








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Can I bum a fag off you? is an polite informal way of asking someone for a free cigarette.
Do you mind if I bum a fag? is also commonly heard.


Can you what? If someone asked me that, I would have assumed they meant someone and not the packet in which they speak.
Usually, it's 'Can I have a fag?' or '' Can I borrow a fag?'' or ''You got any spare Cigs?'' all that and more, but not can I burn a fag from you, usually its impolite.
Also, for Biscuitman, if you want to be the sole provider of your middle class income, it usually goes with an afternoon or mid-afternoon tea (and biscuit). :roll:[/quote]


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15 Nov 2017, 2:17 am

...Yes, they do. I grew up in Westchester County, NY, to the immediate north of NYC, Incidentally?, speaking of the NYC area, when people say " Long Island ", they mean Nassau and Suffolk counties...not the Brooklyn and Queens (Kings and Queens as counties) boroughs of NYC...Krafiekortie, you wouldn't call yourself a " Longuylander ", would you? :lol:











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Stayed on Long Island for work about 5 years ago, got sick and had to go to hospital. His computer then asked him what state I was from, he asked me and I said none as we don't have them but he may as well put my county in as it is probably the closest thing, he didn't get it, kept looking at me funny and asking if Berkshire was a state! :lol:


Biscuitman, Berkshire is called a 'State', in American terms, it's a 'County', in English terms. Surely your deskjob pays you to know these things?



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15 Nov 2017, 2:41 am

I struggle with the American usage of obligated. Where I'm from it's obliged as in 'much obliged'. I was also totally confused when an American was talking about trowma. It took me a while to work out he was saying trauma. Also I do wonder if Americans have always used the word beverage. Here it's a drink.


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15 Nov 2017, 6:25 am

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I struggle with the American usage of obligated. Where I'm from it's obliged as in 'much obliged'. I was also totally confused when an American was talking about trowma. It took me a while to work out he was saying trauma. Also I do wonder if Americans have always used the word beverage. Here it's a drink.


We Americans (the ones Ive heard) all pronounce "trauma" as "trah mah". Presumably the same way that you say it. NEVER heard anyone say "trow ma". That would sound really weird.

Americans say "drink" (noun as well as as a verb) when talking about potables. "Beverage" is the word printed on menus. But "drink" was the word in actual speech. Though...I dunno....maybe "beverage" is starting to creep in actual speech lately.

About "obligated" . Never thought about it before.

You maybe right. Maybe "obligated" isn't a real word. And you should say "obliged".

Folks here do say "much obliged" coupled with "thank you". But if someone says "I am obligated to put away money each month to pay alimony" it wouldn't sound wrong to me.



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15 Nov 2017, 6:43 am

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I struggle with the American usage of obligated. Where I'm from it's obliged as in 'much obliged'. I was also totally confused when an American was talking about trowma. It took me a while to work out he was saying trauma. Also I do wonder if Americans have always used the word beverage. Here it's a drink.


We Americans (the ones Ive heard) all pronounce "trauma" as "trah mah". Presumably the same way that you say it. NEVER heard anyone say "trow ma". That would sound really weird.
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The only "trow ma" I've heard is Troma Entertainment who produce low budget horror B-movies e.g. The Toxic Avenger which was such a cult classic it got turned into a musical and a kids cartoon.


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15 Nov 2017, 6:54 am

A "Long Islander" is someone from Nassau/Suffolk County, not someone from Queens/Brooklyn--even though Queens/Brooklyn is actually ON Long Island.

Trauma is "trah-ma" to me. Rhymes with drama.

A "beverage" is a drink. Nobody ever calls a non-alcoholic drink a "beverage" in everyday speech, though it is referred to as such within menus. Sometimes, people refer to alcoholic drinks as "beverages" in order to appear elegant. The drunker a person is, the more likely he/she will use "beverage."



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15 Nov 2017, 9:38 am

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A "beverage" is a drink. Nobody ever calls a non-alcoholic drink a "beverage" in everyday speech


In the UK you would either ask for a 'drink' or a 'soft drink'



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15 Nov 2017, 9:56 am

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Basic English whenever you speak with someone, if i speak with a Britt, i can say "Sarney" instead of "Sandwich", but everyone isn't from the area where those localized words are, i.e. "Soda" can be called "pop", "lemonade" or even "cooling drink" depending on where you are in the states, Australia have different words as well. So when you go somewhere, go with basic English and "feel your way around" by listening to people and adapt.


Before I started saying "soda", I used to say "pop" all the time when I lived up north. That is until I moved down to Texas... :lol:

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15 Nov 2017, 10:02 am

In NYC, a carbonated drink is always called a "soda." Sometimes, old folks call it "soda pop." Sometimes, "coke" is used for any brown-colored carbonated drink.

It's only "orange juice" if it's pure "orange juice." Otherwise, it would be called an "orange drink."



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15 Nov 2017, 10:21 am

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kraftiekortie wrote:
A "beverage" is a drink. Nobody ever calls a non-alcoholic drink a "beverage" in everyday speech


In the UK you would either ask for a 'drink' or a 'soft drink'


Same thing here in the US.



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15 Nov 2017, 1:00 pm

^^ "Tipple" seems to still be quite common around here in Yorkshire, as in "what's your tipple?" to ask what drink someone would like (usually meaning alcoholic, but not always.)


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15 Nov 2017, 2:01 pm

fizzy pop - carbonated soda
dilute pop - erm not sure if you have that. lol


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