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15 May 2011, 12:15 pm

Moog wrote:

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Sallamandrina wrote:

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I do eat some veggies but not because I like them really. Why must the healthy foods taste terrible? >.<

Because someone is an awful cook? Sorry - there is a lot of "healthy" or vegan/vegetarian food that can taste absolutely fantastic if it's cooked properly.

I'm not that bad of a cook and neither is my mother. Just some things just will never seem appealing to me, like asparagus and brussel sprouts. *shudder*

You can come to like bitter flavours as you age apparently. Give asparagus another go in a few years. I love that sh** :lol:

Ewww but it's so soggy and bitter. >.<

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15 May 2011, 12:16 pm

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Why am I not vegan? Simple. Because A) I don't belong to any groups or group thinking

You have no beliefs of any kind? That's actually a paradox, given your repeated professions of your belief in not having beliefs.

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B) I'm not interested in telling other people how to live their lives, or being told how to live mine,

Nor am I- I think actions which people undertake affecting only themselves are no one else's business but the individual's.
But what on Earth does that have to do with veganism?

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C) I'm a big fan of having a well balanced diet and a well balanced life

Nutritionally-adequate and nutritionally-beneficial diets can't really be implied to be "unbalanced"...

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and D) I've never met a truly happy vegan in my life.

That's quite honestly the most p*ss-poor reason I've heard for ANY stance in a while.

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Some people are very good at pretending they are happy, but I'm better at seeing through the mask than they are at wearing it. If I happen to not eat meat or eggs for the next year, I wouldn't consider myself vegan,

Well naturally, because veganism is far more than a diet (which would, btw, not include dairy or honey)
but is a lifestyle.

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I would consider myself to be forgetful, or maybe I will have changed in that case, but I certainly wouldn't give up eating certain foods because of some popular guilt tripping ideology.

Where on earth do you live where veganism is "popular"? And is telling the truth about the effects of a consumer's choices "guilt-tripping"?

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I like to keep all my options open,

You're a cannibal???

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and that makes me a truly happy person,

Do your neighbors know???

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and that's what makes vegans so sad and angry and afraid.

I must admit, I'm saddened by willful ignorance,
angered by indifference to wanton destruction and outright sadism,
and afraid of what will in the very near future be the fate of the environment and it's ability to sustain us at ALL given the current outright suicide-ideation as expressed by the choices of many Westerners.

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I would rather smile and be a "hypocrite" than to take pleasure in my own misery.

The question isn't about taking pleasure in your own misery,
but taking pleasure in the misery of others.

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15 May 2011, 12:17 pm

Erisad wrote:

Sadly, healthy food is expensive.

Yes, indeedy!

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15 May 2011, 12:19 pm

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Ewww but it's so soggy and bitter. >.<

That's what I meant - if it's fresh and lightly steamed or buttered it's neither soggy (it should stay crisp) or bitter. You can add a light sauce to it if you want. The canned one is quite bad and the fresh is indeed expensive.

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15 May 2011, 12:19 pm

:lol: @ the implication vegans eat only fruits and veggies

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15 May 2011, 12:20 pm

Bethie wrote:

Erisad wrote:

Sadly, healthy food is expensive.

Yes, indeedy!

Some of the healthiest things you can eat are free. Eat the weeeeds

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15 May 2011, 12:21 pm

Bethie wrote:

:lol: @ the implication vegans eat only fruits and veggies

Vegitarians only eat vegans.

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15 May 2011, 12:23 pm

Moog wrote:

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:lol: @ the implication vegans eat only fruits and veggies

Vegitarians only eat vegans.

Vegans, being of flesh,
would not be eaten by a vegEtarians, by definition.

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15 May 2011, 12:25 pm

I would like to point out that:

1. I am not a vegan
2. I am a vegetarian
3. I do not start threads asking why people AREN'T vegetarians because I know that will p*ss them off
4. I am intolerant to cows milk (but love goat/sheep cheese too much to give it up!)
5. I tried going completely vegan once, ended up with the squits
6. I like eggs waay too much to be a vegan
7. I am healthy looking, strong and have never been anaemic
8. Vegan recipes are actually quite nice when balanced with veggie recipes
9. If in doubt, cook a vegan recipe then coat it in cheese!
10. Some people can live happily and healthily on a veggie/vegan diet, others get sick, vitamin deficient and much more problems, therefore if it works for you, great, but don't tell everyone that it is the best diet there is because it isn't neccesarily.

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15 May 2011, 12:25 pm

Moog wrote:

Bethie wrote:

Erisad wrote:

Sadly, healthy food is expensive.

Yes, indeedy!

Some of the healthiest things you can eat are free. Eat the weeeeds

Ugh. I just got an image of something I read probably a decade ago about the Irish potato famine, wherein people really did resort to trying to eat grass, and the bark from trees...the narrator kept mentioning how much quieter it kept getting.

~shudder~

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15 May 2011, 12:29 pm

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5. I tried going completely vegan once, ended up with the squits

My mom's an omnivore. She had a really bad bladder infection once. Had to be hospitalized.

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7. I am healthy looking, strong and have never been anaemic

You should talk to my 6'1" 180 lb all muscle 6 minute mile vegan ex.

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9. If in doubt, cook a vegan recipe then coat it in cheese!

Why ruin a perfectly good meal?! :eew:

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15 May 2011, 12:30 pm

The bark of certain trees like birch and elm are considered 'superfoods'. They sell them in health shops for crazy prices.

Taking bark from trees can kill them, so do find out how to do it properly first. I tend to only use leaves, unless we're trimming the birch in the garden, then I strip the branches we remove.

A good famine food is nettle. I regularly take a wee bag out on my travels and bring a bunch back.

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15 May 2011, 12:34 pm

I'm too fond of cheese.

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15 May 2011, 12:39 pm

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The bark of certain trees like birch and elm are considered 'superfoods'. They sell them in health shops for crazy prices.

Don't get me started on the concept of "health shops".

For instance, the notion of a man who makes millions annually selling ORGANIC SHAMPOO opining about health care not being a right,
and granting thinner Whole Foods employees extra discounts than their larger counterparts (because we ALL know reducing someone's relative buying power helps them lose weight).

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15 May 2011, 12:42 pm

Bethie wrote:

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(because we ALL know reducing someone's relative buying power helps them lose weight).

Exactly.

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15 May 2011, 12:43 pm

Bethie wrote:

Moog wrote:

The bark of certain trees like birch and elm are considered 'superfoods'. They sell them in health shops for crazy prices.

Do they do that? How strange.

Health food shops totally suck. Mostly they are full of bodbuilder junk and useless things.

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