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11 Jun 2018, 9:16 pm

^^^I would call the above "Self-Administered Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, Combined With Reality Testing."

It's good to use simple logic in this way.



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11 Jun 2018, 9:34 pm

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Sometimes, Ms. Dragon, you have to "will" it.

That's the first step sometimes in emerging from depression. You must provide the first "push" sometimes.

I know this might sound "phony" to some----but this is something I firmly believe in.

Aside from all the therapies and all the medications.

That's what the psychiatrists fail to see, I believe, in their love of medicating their patients.


The problem is that I can't find a way out, except sometimes for making myself bleed, which everyone tells me not to do - but it's the only thing I've found that works. At the very least it gives me something to feel besides numbness or the general "depressed" feeling - and I'm serious, nothing else I've tried has done even that for very long. It feels like depression is an ocean trying to drown me, and it's taking every fiber of my willpower and energy just to keep my head above water. Every time I think I've found somewhere I can rest for a bit, I barely even get to catch my breath before I'm swept right back off. But granted, I fully admit I'm rather lacking in the patience department. I know none of this is just going to go "poof" and vanish, but I still am generally not inclined to keep doing something that doesn't seem to be helping at all for me - and that's probably something I need to work on if I'm going to win this fight.


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11 Jun 2018, 9:39 pm

You can win this fight. I sense your strength. There will be setbacks. Think about the simple idea of two steps forward, one step back.

There are no simple solutions----but even the act of striving, even with no apparent results, is better than not striving at all.

Have you thought about creating a fantasy world with all those characters you like? With all their weirdness?



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11 Jun 2018, 9:42 pm

vigorous exercise is helpful to some, to clear away the mental cobwebs and distract oneself from depression. granted, it takes a superhuman willpower to make oneself get up and do it, but once one is doing it, the symptoms of depression abate for awhile.



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11 Jun 2018, 10:00 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
You can win this fight. I sense your strength. There will be setbacks. Think about the simple idea of two steps forward, one step back.

There are no simple solutions----but even the act of striving, even with no apparent results, is better than not striving at all.

Have you thought about creating a fantasy world with all those characters you like? With all their weirdness?


Oh, I have a bazillion different fantasy worlds - I used to spend a lot of time in them. I used to write about some of them even, but lately they haven't been speaking to me - it's like the depression is a big black hole that just sucks everything else up. I've thought about at least going back and reading my stories again over the past few days - probably not a bad idea. Can't really do any harm, and maybe they'll re-capture my interest. Feels more like I've been taking one/zero steps forward and sliding three steps back lately, though :(


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11 Jun 2018, 10:09 pm

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vigorous exercise is helpful to some, to clear away the mental cobwebs and distract oneself from depression. granted, it takes a superhuman willpower to make oneself get up and do it, but once one is doing it, the symptoms of depression abate for awhile.


That's something I keep wanting to try, but my lungs can't handle jogging and I can't drive, so I need someone to take me to the gym, which doesn't happen very often. We're looking at getting an exercise bike sometime soon, of the kind I've tried and enjoyed at the gym, but I'm not sure exactly when that's going to happen. Of course, I will definitely be working my way up to a really vigorous workout, because for the time being it takes a great deal of willpower just to get myself out of bed in the mornings :(


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11 Jun 2018, 10:12 pm

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auntblabby wrote:
vigorous exercise is helpful to some, to clear away the mental cobwebs and distract oneself from depression. granted, it takes a superhuman willpower to make oneself get up and do it, but once one is doing it, the symptoms of depression abate for awhile.


That's something I keep wanting to try, but my lungs can't handle jogging and I can't drive, so I need someone to take me to the gym, which doesn't happen very often. We're looking at getting an exercise bike sometime soon, of the kind I've tried and enjoyed at the gym, but I'm not sure exactly when that's going to happen. Of course, I will definitely be working my way up to a really vigorous workout, because for the time being it takes a great deal of willpower just to get myself out of bed in the mornings :(

it has been years since Mr. Arthur Itis has allowed me to run. can you ride a bike to the gym? I rode a bike up and down hills which is superb exercise [very sweaty] but lately have been vigorously [like late for a meeting] walking up and down those same hills, with the same results. mebbe get a good pair of cushioned and supportive walking shoes and find some hills to walk up and down. or bike up and down.



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11 Jun 2018, 10:34 pm

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dragonsanddemons wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
vigorous exercise is helpful to some, to clear away the mental cobwebs and distract oneself from depression. granted, it takes a superhuman willpower to make oneself get up and do it, but once one is doing it, the symptoms of depression abate for awhile.


That's something I keep wanting to try, but my lungs can't handle jogging and I can't drive, so I need someone to take me to the gym, which doesn't happen very often. We're looking at getting an exercise bike sometime soon, of the kind I've tried and enjoyed at the gym, but I'm not sure exactly when that's going to happen. Of course, I will definitely be working my way up to a really vigorous workout, because for the time being it takes a great deal of willpower just to get myself out of bed in the mornings :(

it has been years since Mr. Arthur Itis has allowed me to run. can you ride a bike to the gym? I rode a bike up and down hills which is superb exercise [very sweaty] but lately have been vigorously [like late for a meeting] walking up and down those same hills, with the same results. mebbe get a good pair of cushioned and supportive walking shoes and find some hills to walk up and down. or bike up and down.


I think the gym is a little more of a bike ride than I'd be up for, particularly if I was going to be then working out and riding back home. My bike is probably also in dire need of maintenance, I don't think I've done a thing with it since before I went to college, at least :oops: I prefer to use the recumbent bikes at the gym, and I know you can get bikes like that to travel with, but I'd feel way too awkward doing that. I can, however, take longer and/or more vigorous walks with my dog at least as something to get me a bit of exercise before we get the bike. Won't do him any harm to get a bit more exercise, either :wink:


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11 Jun 2018, 10:40 pm

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auntblabby wrote:
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auntblabby wrote:
vigorous exercise is helpful to some, to clear away the mental cobwebs and distract oneself from depression. granted, it takes a superhuman willpower to make oneself get up and do it, but once one is doing it, the symptoms of depression abate for awhile.


That's something I keep wanting to try, but my lungs can't handle jogging and I can't drive, so I need someone to take me to the gym, which doesn't happen very often. We're looking at getting an exercise bike sometime soon, of the kind I've tried and enjoyed at the gym, but I'm not sure exactly when that's going to happen. Of course, I will definitely be working my way up to a really vigorous workout, because for the time being it takes a great deal of willpower just to get myself out of bed in the mornings :(

it has been years since Mr. Arthur Itis has allowed me to run. can you ride a bike to the gym? I rode a bike up and down hills which is superb exercise [very sweaty] but lately have been vigorously [like late for a meeting] walking up and down those same hills, with the same results. mebbe get a good pair of cushioned and supportive walking shoes and find some hills to walk up and down. or bike up and down.


I think the gym is a little more of a bike ride than I'd be up for, particularly if I was going to be then working out and riding back home. My bike is probably also in dire need of maintenance, I don't think I've done a thing with it since before I went to college, at least :oops: I prefer to use the recumbent bikes at the gym, and I know you can get bikes like that to travel with, but I'd feel way too awkward doing that. I can, however, take longer and/or more vigorous walks with my dog at least as something to get me a bit of exercise before we get the bike. Won't do him any harm to get a bit more exercise, either :wink:

know any hilly spots nearby?



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11 Jun 2018, 10:49 pm

auntblabby wrote:
know any hilly spots nearby?


My neighborhood isn't that hilly, but I definitely know a longer route or two I can take for dog walks. We also have a park that has a loop of sidewalk that's intended for walking around - we can do as many laps there as we feel like doing. Doesn't get the good cardio workout of the hills, but at least it's some exercise.


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12 Jun 2018, 3:04 pm

[b]functioning[/b]


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12 Jun 2018, 5:26 pm

Hungry :x


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12 Jun 2018, 5:54 pm

sore :|



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