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25 Apr 2019, 12:43 pm

Richard III museum in York is obsessed with proving Henry Tudor killed the Princes in the Tower.

I'm not sure which version is true but it's interesting.

Bit of an over small museum though with two interactive exhibits for adults. One is a video but it's like an hour long documentary (I might watch that at home but I lack the patience in a museum) and one is a board game.



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25 Apr 2019, 1:04 pm

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Then again...I can't deal with the taste of coffee, either...…..

I must have a funny palate

Do they still package fish-n-chips in newspaper where you are?


I've never seen it in newspaper in my life. The nearest I've seen is it you order it at a certain chain of pubs they put the meal on a plate as normal, but with a shiny sheet of pretend newspaper in between. I wonder if anyone misses the flavour of the inks!


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25 Apr 2019, 1:14 pm

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I hate Leicester... they nicked Richard III's skeleton and buried it there rather than returning it to York.

I think he should have been buried in Westminster Abbey, we could have had a proper state funeral. Not only would it have been good practice, but think of the confused tourists.



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25 Apr 2019, 2:26 pm

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kraftiekortie wrote:
Then again...I can't deal with the taste of coffee, either...…..

I must have a funny palate

Do they still package fish-n-chips in newspaper where you are?


I've never seen it in newspaper in my life. The nearest I've seen is it you order it at a certain chain of pubs they put the meal on a plate as normal, but with a shiny sheet of pretend newspaper in between. I wonder if anyone misses the flavour of the inks!



It was commonplace to get your fish and chips wrapped in newspaper in the 1960s and 70s, but not sure whether it persisted after then. I think it was banned on 'health and safety' grounds.


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25 Apr 2019, 2:31 pm

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Richard III museum in York is obsessed with proving Henry Tudor killed the Princes in the Tower.

I'm not sure which version is true but it's interesting.

Bit of an over small museum though with two interactive exhibits for adults. One is a video but it's like an hour long documentary (I might watch that at home but I lack the patience in a museum) and one is a board game.



We had a school trip to York in the early 1970s, and I was fascinated by a recreated 19th Century street called 'Kirkgate' in the Castle Museum. I visited the museum a few years ago, and it no longer seemed to be there. :cry:

I've noticed that virtually every town or city in Yorkshire seems to have a 'Kirkgate', by the way.


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25 Apr 2019, 2:39 pm

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We had a school trip to York in the early 1970s, and I was fascinated by a recreated 19th Century street called 'Kirkgate' in the Castle Museum. I visited the museum a few years ago, and it no longer seemed to be there. :cry:

I've noticed that virtually every town or city in Yorkshire seems to have a 'Kirkgate', by the way.


Kirkgate's still there. Castle Museum is the best museum in York IMO.

Go in the main entrance not the dungeon entrance then go around the exhibits and you'll eventually come to it, if you're ever there again.

Actually even through the dungeon entrance you'll get there it will just take ages.

Kirkgate was named after Dr Kirk. The guy in the 1930s who went around gathering things from the 19th century to make the street for the museum :)



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25 Apr 2019, 2:47 pm

The Castle museum is a great museum. I really like all the civil war stuff, but the Kirkgate is fascinating. I also like the Yorvik Centre, but it's probably been refurbished a couple of times since I last went.


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25 Apr 2019, 2:56 pm

Yeah only thing wrong with Jorvik is the immense queues!

(Non-UK onlookers - we don't actually love to queue we just view queuing as the height of good manners)



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25 Apr 2019, 3:01 pm

I gave up queueing about thirty years ago... apart from essentials like getting on a plane. I tend to go to places at quiet times of the year when the weather isn't so good. If there's a long queue I do a U turn. I'd queue for the second coming, and that's about it.


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25 Apr 2019, 3:30 pm

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I've noticed that virtually every town or city in Yorkshire seems to have a 'Kirkgate', by the way.

That's down to the Vikings; you find those names all over parts of the country that used to be the "Danelaw" that they ruled over centuries ago (roughly North of a line between the Thames and Mersey estuaries). The "gate" doesn't come from the modern English meaning of "gate", but from a Norse word meaning "road" or "way". And "kirk" is the Norse for "church" (as in Scottish dialects.) So really, it just means "Church Street" - hence why it's so common.


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26 Apr 2019, 12:48 am

Bloody Vikings... coming over here... pillaging our villages and giving everywhere funny names...


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26 Apr 2019, 1:46 am

As a history lover I would like to visit Yorkshire. Only been once and that was to Sheffield for a football match!



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26 Apr 2019, 9:15 am

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Bloody Vikings... coming over here... pillaging our villages and giving everywhere funny names...

Proper rough-and-tumble Northern names, at least - not like those antsy-pantsy Normans. I mean, "Ashby-de-la-Zouch"? Ooh-la-la! Honestly! :roll:

And I can't see at all why they felt the need to change Nottingham's perfectly good pre-Norman name; Snotingaham ("the settlement of Snot".) :lol:

Phew! I need to get out and find a pretty view to calm me down a bit now - maybe Great Arse; that's always a joy to behold (though Little Arse and Deep Arse can also be very appealing.) (If you can't find them on a map, it's all the killjoy Victorians fault! <clicky>)


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26 Apr 2019, 10:22 am

Thornton Le Beans (North Yorkshire) is one of my favourites.


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26 Apr 2019, 11:15 am

^ I love some of the local Yorkshire pronunciations too, very "economical"; e.g. Barnoldswick -> "Barlick", Appletreewick -> "Aptrick".

Local to me, there are some great ones around the little quarrying hamlets. Moscow and Egypt are only a five minute walk apart, and the Bradford district of Idle is famous for its Idle Working Men's Club (it has quite a few celebrities as honorary members.) The award-winning brass band at Black Dyke have had some interesting problems touring in the USA from the PC/SJW brigade, too!


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26 Apr 2019, 11:22 am

I once played a few gigs in the Idle Working Men's Club. We used to rehearse in the Black Dyke Mills too.


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