15 May 2011, 12:44 pm
15 May 2011, 12:47 pm
Oh yeah, I also noticed earlier in the thread that someone mentioned Cats/Dogs being on vegan diets. As someone who has a lot of knowledge on animals, I can quite easily tell you that this is abusive. Cats and dogs are NOT omnivores, they are carnivores and therefore their entire diet is made up of meat. If you are veggie/vegan and can't cope with meat, do not get a cat/dog, get a small herbivore instead.
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15 May 2011, 12:48 pm
Sallamandrina wrote:
Erisad wrote:
Ewww but it's so soggy and bitter. >.<
That's what I meant - if it's fresh and lightly steamed or buttered it's neither soggy (it should stay crisp) or bitter. You can add a light sauce to it if you want. The canned one is quite bad and the fresh is indeed expensive.
*sigh* Oh well. Asparagus doesn't seem to be a popular food at my house anyway so I guess I won't be seeing it any time soon.
What else do they eat apart from fruits and veggies? I'm legit curious. I guess there's seeds and carbs too. >.>
15 May 2011, 12:52 pm
I always feel really odd being Vegan and knowing nothing about animal rights & the environmental impacts of the meat industry... 
15 May 2011, 1:05 pm
Erisad wrote:
Sallamandrina wrote:
Erisad wrote:
Ewww but it's so soggy and bitter. >.<
That's what I meant - if it's fresh and lightly steamed or buttered it's neither soggy (it should stay crisp) or bitter. You can add a light sauce to it if you want. The canned one is quite bad and the fresh is indeed expensive.
*sigh* Oh well. Asparagus doesn't seem to be a popular food at my house anyway so I guess I won't be seeing it any time soon.
What else do they eat apart from fruits and veggies? I'm legit curious. I guess there's seeds and carbs too. >.>
Pulses (beans, lentils, chickpeas) and nuts.
15 May 2011, 1:08 pm
Moog wrote:
Erisad wrote:
Sallamandrina wrote:
Erisad wrote:
Ewww but it's so soggy and bitter. >.<
That's what I meant - if it's fresh and lightly steamed or buttered it's neither soggy (it should stay crisp) or bitter. You can add a light sauce to it if you want. The canned one is quite bad and the fresh is indeed expensive.
*sigh* Oh well. Asparagus doesn't seem to be a popular food at my house anyway so I guess I won't be seeing it any time soon.
What else do they eat apart from fruits and veggies? I'm legit curious. I guess there's seeds and carbs too. >.>
Pulses (beans, lentils, chickpeas) and nuts.
I like black beans and chick peas and cashews. So I would be eating fruit, broccoli, raw spinach, beans, chick peas and cashews? Seems like a really limited diet. I wish I had that kind of dedication. Oh well. I'm having pork chops tonight! ^.^
15 May 2011, 1:12 pm
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15 May 2011, 1:38 pm
Jellybean wrote:
Oh yeah, I also noticed earlier in the thread that someone mentioned Cats/Dogs being on vegan diets. As someone who has a lot of knowledge on animals, I can quite easily tell you that this is abusive. Cats and dogs are NOT omnivores, they are carnivores and therefore their entire diet is made up of meat. If you are veggie/vegan and can't cope with meat, do not get a cat/dog, get a small herbivore instead.
Urm. Well first of all, I don't know who would assert that a dog is a carnivore- certainly not someone who "has a lot of knowledge" about animals. They are natural omnivores, whereas cats are naturally highly-carnivorous.
That being said, very few people feed their companion animals a "natural" diet, and it is nutrition that matters, not the source- this principle is as true in non-human animals as human ones,
and so whereas some people stereotype (apparently) a "vegan" diet as being little more than fruits and vegetables,
in actuality the diet being referred to in this case is nutritionally-fortified pet foods of a very similar type as most popular brands (if only more expensive). It most certainly doesn't have anything to do with being able to "cope" with anything, but actually living an ethical vegan lifestyle. Thank you for the lecture, though.
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15 May 2011, 1:41 pm
Erisad wrote:
I like black beans and chick peas and cashews. So I would be eating fruit, broccoli, raw spinach, beans, chick peas and cashews? Seems like a really limited diet. I wish I had that kind of dedication. Oh well. I'm having pork chops tonight! ^.^
ROFL. When I'm not on a diet, my favorites are big fat burritos with rice, beans, guacamole, pico de gallo, and habanero salsa
veggie patch pizzas
and spaghetti with tomato, mushroom, and onion sauce
People's inability to conceptualize filling meals without meat astounds me.
15 May 2011, 1:44 pm
Bethie wrote:
People's inability to conceptualize filling meals without meat astounds me.
I used to be like that.
For the first few weeks that I was Vegan I really did just eat the "fruit and vegetables" stereotype until I saw my (Vegan) friend eating pasta and nut roast. D'oh...
15 May 2011, 1:47 pm
Bethie wrote:
Erisad wrote:
I like black beans and chick peas and cashews. So I would be eating fruit, broccoli, raw spinach, beans, chick peas and cashews? Seems like a really limited diet. I wish I had that kind of dedication. Oh well. I'm having pork chops tonight! ^.^
ROFL. When I'm not on a diet, my favorites are big fat burritos with rice, beans, guacamole, pico de gallo, and habanero salsa
veggie patch pizzas
and spaghetti with tomato, mushroom, and onion sauce
People's inability to conceptualize filling meals without meat astounds me.
Sorry. I'm just a fat American who doesn't know how to eat properly. :/
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15 May 2011, 1:47 pm
kittie wrote:
Bethie wrote:
People's inability to conceptualize filling meals without meat astounds me.
I used to be like that.
For the first few weeks that I was Vegan I really did just eat the "fruit and vegetables" stereotype until I saw my (Vegan) friend eating pasta and nut roast. D'oh...That's what kind of makes me wonder about the people who supposedly were made sick by a vegan diet.
"What did you eat?"
"Salads...apples...."
"That's not veganism. That's starvation, and stupid."
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15 May 2011, 1:48 pm
Erisad wrote:
Sorry. I'm just a fat American who doesn't know how to eat properly. :/
I'm a fat American, too.
15 May 2011, 1:49 pm
Bethie wrote:
kittie wrote:
Bethie wrote:
People's inability to conceptualize filling meals without meat astounds me.
I used to be like that.
For the first few weeks that I was Vegan I really did just eat the "fruit and vegetables" stereotype until I saw my (Vegan) friend eating pasta and nut roast. D'oh...That's what kind of makes me wonder about the people who supposedly were made sick by a vegan diet.
"What did you eat?"
"Salads...apples...."
"That's not veganism. That's starvation, and stupid."
Agreed, I attribute it to a lack of research I think.
(Thankfully I'm not like that anymore. )
15 May 2011, 1:54 pm
Bethie wrote:
Erisad wrote:
Sorry. I'm just a fat American who doesn't know how to eat properly. :/
I'm a fat American, too.
Not sure how to respond to that, honestly.
Veganism would be a starvation diet for me as I wouldn't be eating much. That's okay though I can afford to not eat for a bit.
