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27 Feb 2009, 7:08 pm

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The Allies might as well have shot all those people themselves. Anyway, my Great Grandfather burned all his Russian documents and used contacts he had to get Polish documents and now my family lives in Australia.


I just got through reading a marvelous book regarding the siege of Stalingrad, and it documents everything you're saying. There were Russians who defected to the Nazis, when they could without being shot by their own troops. And yes, every one of them that was sent back to Russia was executed as a traitor. Amazing that your Great Grandfather survived. In the book it 's noted that the German field hospitals were filthy, but not as bad as the Russians.

Do put up some pics ! !!


Google the Don Cossacks or the Kaminski brigade for some serious gittishness on the part of the repatriators post war....


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01 Mar 2009, 8:29 pm

the Russians were the only army with two fronts on one battlefield; the first one, composed of criminals (regular, and political), and a second one behind that to shoot the first front if they retreated...



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02 Mar 2009, 10:39 am

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the Russians were the only army with two fronts on one battlefield; the first one, composed of criminals (regular, and political), and a second one behind that to shoot the first front if they retreated...


Didn't read anything about that. They did welcome German troops who defected to their side. It was quite mixed up at the front. Germans fighting on the Russian side, Russians fighting on the German side, not to mention the various Ethnicities involved.


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02 Mar 2009, 10:52 am

Prof_Pretorius wrote:
pakled wrote:
the Russians were the only army with two fronts on one battlefield; the first one, composed of criminals (regular, and political), and a second one behind that to shoot the first front if they retreated...


Didn't read anything about that. They did welcome German troops who defected to their side. It was quite mixed up at the front. Germans fighting on the Russian side, Russians fighting on the German side, not to mention the various Ethnicities involved.


In the final days of Stalingrad the Germans were executing more officers than the Russians were killing...


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02 Mar 2009, 8:38 pm

I got it from that old curmudgeon Solzhenitsyn.

reading is going to make me out to be an idiot one of these days...;)



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04 Mar 2009, 9:57 am

pakled wrote:
I got it from that old curmudgeon Solzhenitsyn.

reading is going to make me out to be an idiot one of these days...;)


Which of his books ??


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04 Mar 2009, 9:32 pm

oh lawsie...I read so many of them (if you think AS is depressing, read the Gulag Archipelago...;) I think it was in one of the volumes. The books were sold years ago.