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31 Dec 2017, 4:44 pm

Oh, I'm sorry.

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31 Dec 2017, 4:58 pm

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if you read my previous posts, you will see that i don't discount emotional trauma. it just doesn't fit the criteria for ptsd.

Sorry to jump into this conversation...

I disagree. I think that emotional trauma, or trauma of any kind, can fit ptsd. However, the phrase itself, post-traumatic-stress-disorder, implies that having understandable reactions to stress and trauma is abnormal, just in the word 'disorder'. I prefer the term ptsr--post traumatic stress reaction.

you and i don't pick the criteria. psychiatrists already have. when i was banned from practicing medicine, that was most of my life stolen, but i can't officially call the results ptsd or ptsr.

I am sorry you had your life stolen and yes it is possible you have ptsd.

It is not necessarily psychiatrists who decide what ptsd is.
The DSM5 and ICD10 differs when it comes to diagnosis.
There are different tools and models for diagnosis.
There is plenty of research being done in this area too and things will change again and again.

In practice, when sat in front of people, PTSD is a reaction to trauma and trauma can come in many different forms. The diagnostic materials available are only guidelines and nobody will ever present the same as anyone else.
Trauma can be remembered in the body or mind. It is all interconnected.

So I agree with kuraudo. It makes sense.

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31 Dec 2017, 5:19 pm

I was banned from practicing medicine, that was most of my life stolen, but i can't officially call the results ptsd or ptsr.[/quote]

May I sincerely ask,how did that happen?

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31 Dec 2017, 5:46 pm

kazanscube wrote:

I was banned from practicing medicine, that was most of my life stolen, but i can't officially call the results ptsd or ptsr.

May I sincerely ask,how did that happen?[/quote]
see pm.

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31 Dec 2017, 5:52 pm

It's way too cold to go anywhere today.

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31 Dec 2017, 6:27 pm

So many movies that I recall seeing as a child only to come across them again eons later.

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01 Jan 2018, 7:29 am

I confess that I'm rather uncertain of this year and it's days ahead... Not hopeful or hopeless, nor am afraid what's ahead, just uncertain...
Something huge is just unclear and I don't know what it means. I wanna question it, yet...

I'll find out soon -- that's what I only hope for so far.

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01 Jan 2018, 8:12 am

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I find being with uncertainty difficult.
I am a little afraid of what the outcomes may offer.
Mostly my hands are tied and I have no choice.
Finding the resilience to endure this is hard but not unattainable.

Finger crossed.

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01 Jan 2018, 11:19 am

Thinking about watching a couple of movies

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01 Jan 2018, 11:42 am

My tinnitus is really loud today.

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01 Jan 2018, 11:43 am

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My tinnitus is really loud today.

That's most unpleasant in a literal sense..

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01 Jan 2018, 1:51 pm

Dreading family visit :skull:

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01 Jan 2018, 1:55 pm

I wish it would snow, I live at the foothills of the Rocky Mountains, it's the dead of winter and we haven't had a drop of moisture in over three months. It's very, very concerning, since 1. the ski resorts are a decent chunk of our economy and they're empty, and 2. there's a fair amount of agriculture here, and no snow = no filled canal = no water for crops come spring.

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01 Jan 2018, 2:37 pm

nurseangela wrote:

cathylynn wrote:

Esmerelda Weatherwax wrote:

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Esmerelda Weatherwax wrote:

Actually, PTSD is well documented to exist as a reaction to bullying, which is an existential threat, since it can threaten housing, employment, social acceptance, etc. and loss of any or all of these can be life threatening. People commit suicide in response to bullying, all too often. Adults, as well as children.

The first link below is to a review and metaanalysis on this topic.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 8915000026

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3287974/

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/so ... adult-ptsd

the most reliable source you link (NIH) goes with the physical nature of the trauma.

That particular article is exclusively focused on school bullying, which has a large physical component. The focus there is on children, and children resort to violence more readily than adults, because there are fewer social consequences for them when doing so.

In domestic violence, there is also a huge psychological component, often including prolonged "grooming" of the battered spouse before any physical violence occurs, and sadly there are still limited social/legal consequences for spousal battery, even today.

In the psychological trauma that occurs in workplace bullying and most adult social aggression, the physical dimension is drastically reduced - by adulthood, in workplaces, the *more sophisticated* bullies find other MOs. The existential threat to the target is not reduced at all by this shift - generally it's heightened because the consequences to the target are potentially so drastic.

If the intent of your posts is to deny the reality of psychological injury and the severity of damage resulting from same, which is what I am perceiving as their fundamental intent, then we are in profound, likely permanent disagreement. It happens; life goes on.

if you read my previous posts, you will see that i don't discount emotional trauma. it just doesn't fit the criteria for ptsd.

I never thought about ptsd until I read what you all said here. I looked it up and it does seem to have some of what I'm experiencing. Its bad because you can't get away from the people who did it. I'm trying to avoid everyone and I'm showing hatred towards everyone I see. A week after it happened, Mary had thought about killing herself and I got mad at her for even thinking that - those people weren't worth it. And now last week, I was thinking that Mary might have had the right idea. I would never do it, but all you want to do is go to sleep and never wake up. Nothing good has happened this year and what these people did to us was just too much and I've come to the realization that I may never get over what happened. I have no faith in people anymore. I don't want or need anyone or trust anyone. I'm just dead inside.

feeling numb is good temporary protection. no one will never let you down, but some folks will try harder than others not to. it's a good strategy to trust someone with a little thing first, then gradually build up. going through life alone is something i wouldn't wish on anyone.

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01 Jan 2018, 5:40 pm

Going down to the Chemist to get myself some crisps and maybe some soda pop.

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02 Jan 2018, 3:30 am

I should really get to bed.

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