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25 Aug 2007, 9:42 pm

We can put a tent over the flat roof so that water and snow don't pool on it. :)



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25 Aug 2007, 10:37 pm

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(EXPLETIVEDELETED)YEAH,I'M IN!
At 40yo & still living with my mum,the idea of moving out makes me drool.
I'd live in a drain.

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1]Ana54,get your finger out & open an account online-I'll donate AUS$1000.00 right now(the last time I used my VISA was for US$200.00 worth of Alexander Jodorowsky comics,this is an order of magnitude more worthwhile)
2]Politically,I favour Anarchism-it worked so well somewhere in 1900's Europe that the state shut it down,fearing disolution of their power base.(I just heard about it once in a radio doco,could never find any more info.)
3]I HAVE a vacant block on Aussies tourist destination,the sunny Gold Coast.Squatters welcome.
4]a)Aspy's natural born skill is innovation
b)Dr Tony says Aspy's are natural capitalists
c)Our weaknesses are isolation,funding,disorganisation
d)Therefore:the opportunity to collude in directed special-interest groups should produce unique business opportunities.(show me the money)
5]If I had Bill Gate's money,my dream was always to buy orphanages,educate all the kids to a university level,then bill them 1% of their lifetime income & use the money to buy more orphanages.This commune idea is very similar & could be also be funded by:
a)Governmental servicese.g.disability support,housing support,educational support(good luck(sarcasm))
b)Scientific research (I'm sure Aspergers studied in a commune would show physiological,sociological,emotional & intellectual benefits/improvements)
6]I've wanted to rant about this for a while now:Mentoring programs WORK
Its been proved.Are there mentoring programs being applied universally?No.It makes me sick.
They tell us we have a problem,now go away
They tell us we have a unique gift,now go away
Give all your money to specialists,psychiatrists,psychologists,chemists -but don't ask for a cure because there isn't one.The commune could be a full-time,positive-feedback mentoring programme,where all your negatives are known,acknowledged & handled by the group.
Anyway(takes a deep breath) I imagine living with Aspys would be the beginning of a life of effective,focused study in the joy of the company of people whose special interests & skills were harnessed,co-ordinated & directed.
The 1st step in a university for Aspys,run by Aspys?
7]Who authored this-"Never forget,that a small group of motivated people can change the world-indeed it is the only thing that ever has"


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25 Aug 2007, 10:55 pm

OMG, I don't believe it!


How do we get in contact with those mentoring people so they can donate a little?


Okay, so here's what we do:

1. We start a bank account. How do we start it online? How do we turn it into a nonprofit organization?
People donate.
2. Meanwhile, me and username88 and others work at under-the-table jobs while on social assistance... at least I'm doing that.
3. Meanwhile, we contact the institutes for scientific research, housing support service in the area, the disability support service in the area, and Tony Attwood and Temple Grandin and them, and anyone else who might want to donate? Hey wait, we can ask Temple if we can live on her farm!



Syzgyish, you MADE MY DAY and I think username88's too!


Cummon people; read these posts!


I really hope the list of people on the first page of this thread are still interested... maybe I should PM them. Should I?



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25 Aug 2007, 11:27 pm

syzygyish wrote:
7]Who authored this-"Never forget,that a small group of motivated people can change the world-indeed it is the only thing that ever has"


Margaret Mead



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26 Aug 2007, 2:03 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBX1Bw-9rbU[/youtube]
Yay!It worked!I always wanted to know how to do that.Look out for Ronald Reagan at the end!

"If no one out there understands-start your own revolution & cut out the middleman"
that's the signature I should have used!


Whew! 2 hours to read 14 pages & 2 hours to write that(any) post.
Ana54 are you ever not online?
I forgot to mention there are a couple of Aussie towns that are giving away houses to try and stop population drift to the big cities.Can't find them at the moment.
It's in here somewhere:http://abc.com.au/

I've been pig-hunting once.This huge boar charged me face on.I took one shot,missed & short-shucked the next round.Just like Jodie Foster's charactor's Dad in 'Silence of the Lambs' Luckily,the pig swerved at the sound of my shot,a right-angle,into the bush, & vanished.
It was the only pig we saw that weekend.20 years later,its the only feral pig I've ever seen.

I know that the Aspy Commune isn't going to happen in the Aussie outback,but allow me to fantasise.

I'm a plant nursery manager,so I'd be able to organise quite a lot of agricultural stuff.Horticulture is an amazing topic to get lost in.
There's biology,botany,chemistry,genetics,hydroponics,nomenclature,propagation,etc
There's a drought here,a bad one.
We need moisture farmers,like Luke used to on Tattoine!(hahahehehoho)
I saw once on TV,some scientists built a life-size flying replica of a Pterodactyl.I bet we could sell a few of those on e-bay.
I know of a plant species from the Sahara that is edible & would be perfect to grow anywhere arid like the Aussie interior.Its my little secret but I'd need the communes help to do it
We could roast wild boar over bonfires(like Asterix & Obelix)(Hey-I fell into the magic potion when I was a baby & it had a permanent effect on me.We should say that when people ask us what Aspergers Syndrome is.) under the perfect outback skies.The Milky Way is supposed to be a glorius blaze of amazing colours.And some1 could show me how to use my Meade LXD 75 10" Schmidt-Newtonian telescope

Oh!The commune definitely needs a Hug Machine!:
http://www.wrongplanet.net/modules.php? ... sc&start=0


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26 Aug 2007, 2:23 am

You read the WHOLE THREAD? Wow!


I don't have a life. This is my whole life. I'm proud of it. I'll get things done. Most NT people who are more scatterbrained won't. :)


I NEED to check that site!


Btw, what was that picture of? The YMCA computer I'm on has something wrong with it or something; the pic doesn't ever load. :)



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26 Aug 2007, 3:29 am

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You read the WHOLE THREAD? Wow!

Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one here who's analytical,logical & literal;isn't that what we do?
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I NEED to check that site!

Which site?My hug machine site?I've put it on 3 threads I know U post on.
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Btw, what was that picture of?

It's a link to U-tube,Billy Bragg's "Waiting for the great leap forward"
one of the anthems of my youth.Click on it twice.


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26 Aug 2007, 3:46 am

Nope; I meant the site about the free houses... I searched for "houses" on that site and got a whole bunch of irrelevant stuff... like, hundreds of pages probably... maybe I should go thru it all anyway...



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26 Aug 2007, 5:01 am

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I searched for "houses" on that site and got a whole bunch of irrelevant stuff...

Me too,I went straight for "free house" & "free property" - got nothing,20,000 results.
Doooooon't gooooooo throooooooooogh aaaaaaaaaaaaaaall ooooooooooooooooof themmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...
but I did find a nice little house that made me think about Architecture.
I'd like to build a suspended house,
the framework based on DNA & all the rooms suspended from it
and a firemans pole.
as usual implausible plans profligate profusely


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26 Aug 2007, 8:53 am

Building a house? That would take way too long.. I dont know about you but I cant wait another moment.
Lets just buy something for now, and save up the funds to build later. Im going to be spending all my savings by the way, so we should be able to afford something if we combind it with what you have to offer. :wink:



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26 Aug 2007, 1:21 pm

To be a "non-profit," I think you have to have a formal organization and apply to both state and federal governments for a number.



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26 Aug 2007, 2:08 pm

LKL wrote:
To be a "non-profit," I think you have to have a formal organization and apply to both state and federal governments for a number.


As far as I know that's true. I believe it requires that you file articles of incorporation (part of which are bylaws). Although I've been told there is a distinction between "non-profit" and "not for profit". I forget offhand what that distinction is, although I believe it changes what the organization can do legally to raise funds and/or what it can do with the funds it's raised. I think one of them can pay employees and the other can only have volunteers.



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26 Aug 2007, 3:09 pm

I guess that distinction only applies in the US.



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27 Aug 2007, 4:02 am

States charter corporations. That costs, and has reporting involved. Non-profit is a 501-3c ? to the IRS, so that donations become tax deductible, filing that takes a check for $545, plus you must define what you are going to do with the income, and are limited to that. Then comes filing quarterly reports, and yearly, complying with the rules costs thousands a year, forever.

It can work after the fact, do something that people would want to give money to. It is not a good place to start because it is barred from profit making activities.

Humans live somewhere and eat, so it helps to work. Startups are hard, for you need to eat, drink, sleep, bathe, while building. I agree with ike, buy something to start with, grow from there.

Gardens take several years to become productive, and then it is a limited food supply. Cannot pay the bills in beans. A cash economy is needed. Everything has a value, plus or minus, and to survive, you have to stay on the plus side.

I have a business, I hire people, and it is not easy to make a profit. I do see splinter skills, but turning that to income is hard. Most labor can only survive as part of a larger system, people get jobs because they cannot come up with their own work, and other people hire them because they can produce more than they cost.

Profits come from effectivly exploiting small markets before others do, because when you do, you are showing how to many, and they like money too.

Developing a level of skill helps, and a good name. Several items, I am the world supply, and that does not leave room for a copy. It took a long time and much study to learn how.

There are some great skills, programing, graphics design, but those come from one and sell to the world. Most have labor skills, they need a job, and someone to tell them how to do it. There is some semi-skilled, construction, wiring, plumbing, so the highest I can see for this group is a low construction company, cleaning, painting, wiring, plumbing, remodel, but not ready for new construction.

With organization, someone has to sell the jobs, some skills, it helps to do it right, and a labor pool, this group could make a living. It is using what you have, but it gets boring. Skills have to develop till the group can work less and produce something of greater worth.

Small groups can be efffective. Germany leads in the ten person company. They do some small thing, but they are the best, maybe only, and they have the world market. Small groups can be power players in small markets.

I use aspie skill in business. It works. I write, so I have to do something else for money. Publishing and light manufacturing works. I have small markets, too small for anyone else, and many of them. Getting the machines was work, but now they work for me.

The structure of economics, business, law, employment, has a long history. It is how people agree to do things. It is not democratic, it is an exchange, buyer/seller, employer/employee, and anyone who does not do their part is a thief. Kings, Commisars, Republics, and Democracies have come and gone, business has not changed.

It is an agreement of exchange between people. Goods, labor, all is the same.

I would be willing to exchange with you, what do you have? What do you want?



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28 Aug 2007, 12:06 pm

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28 Aug 2007, 8:33 pm

I started a board where we can talk about this is a more orderly fashion: http://z3.invisionfree.com/AS_commune_p ... hp?act=idx