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05 Jun 2018, 7:01 pm

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^Lots of kitty hugs for you, dragon. :heart: :cat: :heart: :cat: :heart: :cat:


Thank you :) Big dragon hugs back to you.


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05 Jun 2018, 7:14 pm

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Wondering if this is what the rest of my life is going to be like - living with my parents and unable to contribute anything back for all they're doing for me, in and out of hospitals for suicidal thoughts and self-harm, with nothing helping... and if so, what's the point in continuing to live?



They are not asking for anything in return. They're doing it, because they love you. The point of continuing this is to get through to the beautiful things after years and years of constant negativity. Trust me, i have been there too, and i am, even now, nowhere near where i would like to be, but i already see beauty in things that i have ignored before. The first step would be to stop thinking about the point of living and start trying to find beauty. It is absolutely hard, but worth it.

For me it started getting a lot better when i chose to leave my country of origin behind and established a new one. This life as an immigrant forced me to find myself and get to know myself a lot better.

Maybe a change of scenery would help you?


I know they're not asking for anything in return, but I still feel guilty and like a parasite. I've been dealing with depression of varying levels for over a decade, and I've long since stopped being able to find much joy in life. Not sure how I'd manage much of a change of scenery if I can't live on my own. I was thinking someday I'd at least get my own apartment and a job to pay for it, but it's starting to look more and more like I'll never reach that level of independence :cry: Absolutely nothing has been helping with the self-harm, at least. But thank you for trying to help, the sentiment is appreciated.


I am myself dealing with a lot of comorbidities of ASD, including bipolar 2 and severe anxiety. I have had my fair share of hopelessness in my life, believe me. I had times when self-harm sounded like the only solution to make this feeling disappear.

I never want to go back there. I am not going to lie, the process to get beyond this is terrifying and tough to master. But it is possible and despite all the naysayers on this planet a good feeling once you have achieved it.

Positivity is hard to acquire. Don't give up just yet! It is actually worth it!

If there is something you need help with, drop me a PM! You're not obligated to do this, of course, it is just an offer.


Big dragon hugs. I wouldn't wish the kind of stuff I'm dealing with on anyone, I'm so sorry you've gone through similarly hard times. I've been really, truly trying to find a better coping mechanism, but self-harm is the only thing I've found that really, truly works - everything else is only temporary, and the release of making myself bleed does make me feel better for longer. Even substitutes don't work - it's really the blood I'm after, not the pain, and I think part of what makes it feel so good somehow is knowing that it's my blood. I also have only recently realized that I may never be able to live on my own, so am still in the very beginning stages of coming to terms with that - up until a couple weeks ago, I'd always assumed it was a given that at some point, I would. And that was the only thing that kept me going sometimes - the idea of one day, hopefully not to horribly far into the future, not being a burden on anyone but myself, so as long as I was content enough, everything would be fine and I wouldn't need to worry about being a burden/parasite. So now I have to learn to accept that that may never be the case.


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05 Jun 2018, 7:19 pm

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I know they're not asking for anything in return, but I still feel guilty and like a parasite. I've been dealing with depression of varying levels for over a decade, and I've long since stopped being able to find much joy in life. Not sure how I'd manage much of a change of scenery if I can't live on my own. I was thinking someday I'd at least get my own apartment and a job to pay for it, but it's starting to look more and more like I'll never reach that level of independence :cry: Absolutely nothing has been helping with the self-harm, at least. But thank you for trying to help, the sentiment is appreciated.


What if you put living independently on the "back burner". I had to do that myself and trying to get a job. Dealing with a lot of anxiety and not coping with traffic noise I realized that I couldn't get a job and have those issues. traffic noise can ruin my whole day and make me not want to do nothing or go anywhere, thing is I can't be that unreliable and keep a job.

Have you ever talked to your therapist about feeling guilty living with your parents and feeling like a parasite?


Yeah, that's what I'm going to have to do - I have to get my life back into some semblance of order and at least get to the point where I can take proper care of myself and my dog on my own before even considering adding a job on to that, and would probably need to have a job before considering living on my own. It's just been such a key thing to me that one day hopefully not too far away I'd be living on my own that it's devastating to realize I may never achieve that. I have mentioned feeling like a burden/parasite and feeling like I have nothing to contribute in return, but I haven't had a chance to speak with my therapist since realizing that I may never be able to live independently. He's working at a summer camp starting tomorrow, so I won't get to talk to him for another week or two.


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05 Jun 2018, 8:29 pm

I feel like I need to move on but I don't want those I have bad blood with running me out to be the reason. I want it to be because this very forum has eaten away at me.



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05 Jun 2018, 9:32 pm

ate one cup of cherries and a dark chocolate kit kat. usually eat one kit kat a day. the cherries tasted way too sweet. sugar overload. regretted it. worried about menstrual cycle.

but bored stiff. every day is like that. and that is "As Good As it Gets".

"life" is no meaning or purpose. just loitering and panhandling. going nowhere.

the entire counseling method might not be for me. my emotions and thoughts are so weird and complex that i do not know how to phrase them. and the counselors usually do not get it either. at least, they do not get it as much as they act like they do.

but what if they did get it, then what? magic? whooptie do



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06 Jun 2018, 12:38 am

what's the point of posting lmao


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06 Jun 2018, 1:08 am

Kiprobalhato wrote:
what's the point of posting lmao

I agree.



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07 Jun 2018, 7:06 am

Kiprobalhato wrote:
what's the point of posting lmao


It appears that, the point of posting, is to get thoughts out of someone's head. Share emotions and ideas

I keep a journal. Sometimes it relieves a little anxiety, but nobody answers

Likewise I ain't got nobody to talk to offline, just counselors

Having said that, :idea: what is the point of living :?:

There could be no point. There could be a point, but not a justified, good, or significant point

What is the point of doing anything?



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07 Jun 2018, 10:25 am

Parents’ dog hit by neighbor & died yesterday. :cry:



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07 Jun 2018, 1:29 pm

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Parents’ dog hit by neighbor & died yesterday. :cry:


Awww, I'm so sorry to hear that. :heart:


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07 Jun 2018, 2:29 pm

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Parents’ dog hit by neighbor & died yesterday. :cry:


Awww, I'm so sorry to hear that. :heart:


Thank you :heart: We’re in mourning.



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07 Jun 2018, 3:12 pm

My whole "life" feels like "there's a hole in the bucket" (song)

Not enough resources to get from here to there

Resources:

Time
Cash
Intelligent
Metabolism
Precious lil "friends"

Potential

:D

Theory of multiple intelligences

Dewey decimal system

:D

Next counseling session, I bring in a dictionary

The counselor keeps misusing the word "mad", "angry", "upset" "important", "distress", "care", "help", "hurt"


The counselor uses the most frequently used wrong definition

"Distress" means "extreme pain". :D in the dictionary :D .



She had the nerve to tell me, that "mad" has a negative connotation for you

:roll:

Wrong.

Not "for you".


In the dictionary


She is :idea: not :cry: doing me a favor by saying "angry" instead of "mad"

Likewise. You would not expect a professional counselor to say the word "crazy" instead of :jester: bipolar :| or :heart: schizophrenia :arrow:

Someone invited me for an internship interview. Unpaid

Too lazy

Unmotivated



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07 Jun 2018, 4:46 pm

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Parents’ dog hit by neighbor & died yesterday. :cry:


I am sorry to read this!


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07 Jun 2018, 11:53 pm

Only ate the regular days menu

But feel bloated

Metabolism plummeting

Uchi deshi. Aikido. Cooking, cleaning, teaching. Live in dojo. Take lessons.

Seriously I don't like aikido that much

Just want one or two lessons per week

Aikido is physically dangerous, socially awkward, financially expensive.

And the head instructor is a control freak

:roll: any punishment for not saying yes ma'am,"? :roll:

Hate wearing a uniform

The current instructor doesn't require a uniform

The head instructor does

Aikido lessons cost 105 bucks a month

Too stupid to earn that much at work

Too socially awkward to get friends to pay for me

Too ugly to get married

Won't win lottery

Not materialistic





On Tuesday, got an interview. Unpaid internship.



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08 Jun 2018, 4:44 am

Secret hidden things and people real or imagined.



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08 Jun 2018, 9:22 am

Mr.Robot wrote:
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Parents’ dog hit by neighbor & died yesterday. :cry:


I am sorry to read this!


Thank you Mr. Robot.