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^ Yeah, I saw an article header asserting that safety gear has been jettisoned over the last few years to meet demands of “efficiency savings”: although I chose not to read it because there’s only so much irritation I can take on before wild full body stimming becomes unavoidable.

How divorced from reality do you have to be to regard stockpiling emergency safety equipment as “inefficient”?

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Eye protective goggles/ safety glasses Are washable and re-usable. Do not need more than 1 per person... Is that really costly?

The government sent about 5-7 to my home last week for any nurse or psw. I don't think we needed that many. It was a Waste.

Face masks on the other hand---we need more. They ran out in a week.

It’s about provision of safety gear to the people working in the hospitals here, which has been wholly inadequate.
Mainly because there was no sufficient stockpile of goggles, masks, suits etc being held... because our government (several years ago) decided that to do so would be wasting money.
Instead they’ve poured billions into a railway that they haven’t even started constructing ten years after it was announced, a nuclear power station... pretty much ditto... and lots of tax breaks for the wealthier members of our society.
Apparently this is fiscally responsible and will decrease the National debt... which has gone up the entire time...
As has homelessness, child poverty, poverty in general, drug addiction rates and violent crime.
And racist attacks against Jews & Muslims.

It’s almost like we’re governed by a pack of clueless incompetents who couldn’t run a bath without at least six servants to help them.

Absolutely this^, along with running a policy of reducing NHS funding over the past decade

^ whilst the national insurance fund designated to provision the NHS, and only the NHS, is in a multibillion pound surplus... so they could just sign the appropriate chit of paper to release the cash without any extra borrowing or taxation.

(There’s another national insurance fund designated for pension provision, also in massive surplus... but apparently we have a pension crisis.)

In the UK at least, the rumour going around social media about autistic people and ventilators seems to be just that - a rumour. They'll treat us differently but in an appropriate, not a eugenic, fashion.

Bare in mind I'm no more than an amateur sleuth. But I trust broadsheet newspapers and the NHS website more than I trust fearmongering online.

^ haven’t come across anything talking about that sort of thing here... but then this is my only social media account.
Come across reference to something if that nature going on in the US: is it possible that some Brits have read about American policies online and assumed the NHS will follow suit?

they mighta sniffed out the fact that trump has tried to persuade boris to move to privatize the NHS.

That’s been public knowledge for well over a year, I’m actually not that worried about it coming to pass: Boris is too ambitious to risk his career by destroying our most popular and respected national institution.
Plus he seems to have responded to a crisis as the conservatives here often do: he’s caught the commie-wobbles.

Yeah one of the only silver linings is I think the NHS will be saved by the coronavirus. Imagine trying to get rid of it afterwards? It would be a PR nightmare.

Good point: demolishing an institution which has, with the voluntary help of approx 10% of the population, staved off potential disaster is not a vote-winning look!

be very glad you don't have american-style conservatives over there who bloodymindedly just don't care about such things. they'd do away with NHS and by extension the "deadwood" [their opinion of the 99%] it serves, unless physically stopped.

Tbh, I think the thing that keeps the Tories here in line on that one is their business sector financial donors looking at the cost of the NHS (8% of UK gdp on average) and the cost of the your system (17% of US gdp on average)... and concluding that there’s no way in hell they’re going to let themselves be walked into funding that through pay rises.

glad to hear they have at least some sense, unlike our power-mad fools and their clueless sycophants.

I know It's some upper class instinct that warns them the moment we start oiling the guillotines and they reverse smoother than Michael Jackson doing the moonwalk. It must be something taught by Nanny.