anyone else hate the way people spell on the internet?

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24 Sep 2009, 6:15 am

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I don't like the shorthand expressions but what really ticks me off is the vast number of people who don't seem to know the difference between "your" and "you're".

Or "there" "their" and "they're".


With those, I "hear" them slightly differently in my head, so if someone writes "doing there own thing" I hear "doing thurr own thing" as opposed to "doing theyurr own thing", or if someone writes "your going to have to do something" I hear "yor going to have to do something" not "yoowerr going to have to do something", which always occasions a mental double-check. I don't really mind people getting it wrong - it would be hypocritical, 'cause I used to get some of them wrong, and while my spelling is nearly perfect my grammar isn't; plus English is an atrocious language for spelling anyway - but it always makes me pause when reading. Same goes for to / too; the pronunciation of "to" can change depending on context, but usually you're going "tuh" do something, while something else is "too" much, not "tuh" much. :)

Though it's interesting, 'cause the regional and national variations in English pronunciation (which is emphatically not pronounced "prow-nown-si-ay-shun" :D ) must make some of them less obviously different, so for some dialects the writer (or reader) may not "hear" any difference between the words.


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24 Sep 2009, 6:45 am

When is a word a dialect or common usage or just plain wrong?

If enough people get it wrong does it become right?

Take the word kilometer. Is it kilo-meter or kil-OM-eter ?

Well let's look at millimeter. It is milli meter, not mil-IM-iter.

Centimeter is centi-meter not cent-IM-iter

So kil-OM-eter is just plain wrong.



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24 Sep 2009, 8:47 am

I hate all that internet junk talk. I don't mind the lol and such, but even that has gotten out of hand. My son came home last year saying lol and omg. I hate how they put z at the end of many words. I also have an annoyance with misspelled "easy" words. I am horrible, i know, but in h.s. my friend and i use to send eachother notes back and forth. All the notes she sent me, i secretly corrected all her spelling and punctuation with a red pencil!

Don't make fun of my spelling lol! I can spell, i just don't look at what i am writing because i can't type without looking at the keyboard and am too lazy to recheck.



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24 Sep 2009, 9:28 am

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When is a word a dialect or common usage or just plain wrong?

If enough people get it wrong does it become right?


I would say that yes, it does, but that the number of people getting it wrong must be very large, and it must happen over a very long period of time. After all, every word we use (apart from ones which have been deliberately invented, like... I dunno, like "quark", say) is a changed version of some earlier word. I wouldn't argue that Early Modern English spellings are more "right" than Modern English spellings (although as time has gone by, spelling has become somewhat more standardised), it's an inherent property of languages that they change over time, so I try not to be bothered when people misspell (sp? :lol: ) things. :)


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24 Sep 2009, 11:30 am

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You know what really bothers me?

People who don't capitalize the beginning of sentences.

I mean, I don't capitalize the beginning of sentences when I'm on MSN, but I would at least expect people to do so on a public forum.

I notice that the title of this thread doesn't uphold that standard.


Now I need to tell my mother she failed. She'll be so disappointed.

Oops, she's dead. *whew!* that's a load-off!



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24 Sep 2009, 11:36 am

Ambivalence wrote:
Wombat wrote:
When is a word a dialect or common usage or just plain wrong?

If enough people get it wrong does it become right?


I would say that yes, it does, but that the number of people getting it wrong must be very large, and it must happen over a very long period of time. After all, every word we use (apart from ones which have been deliberately invented, like... I dunno, like "quark", say) is a changed version of some earlier word. I wouldn't argue that Early Modern English spellings are more "right" than Modern English spellings (although as time has gone by, spelling has become somewhat more standardised), it's an inherent property of languages that they change over time, so I try not to be bothered when people misspell (sp? :lol: ) things. :)
This is not meant as nitpicking, but a quick google revealed that "misspell" is the correct spelling. Also, "mispell" just instantly looks wrong. :?

Anyway, it's noteworthy to mention new words like Internet (it's actually a name noun), diskette (term from 1973) and various others that creep in along with the new technologies.

In other news, the Norwegian word for parent (foreldre) was plural only until fairly recently (I don't remember exactly when, but I was a kid) when single parents became common enough to make the semi-constructed singular form of the noun (forelder) be put into the Norwegian dictionary. As an aside; "Foreldre", or "for eldre" literally means "for elders", but the word "elders" (or "elder" for that matter) does not exist in the Norwegian vocabulary as-is. We have however "eldre" which means "older". The word for "old" is "gammel" just to keep things interesting. 8O

My point is that languages change dynamically all the time. Each generation create their own modified "kewl" version of their dinosaurs' language. I'm interested to see what the next generation can cook up, especially since we already claimed the digits and the punctuation symbols. :)

Oh, and my signature should sum everything up neatly...


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24 Sep 2009, 2:15 pm

digger1 wrote:
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You know what really bothers me?

People who don't capitalize the beginning of sentences.

I mean, I don't capitalize the beginning of sentences when I'm on MSN, but I would at least expect people to do so on a public forum.

I notice that the title of this thread doesn't uphold that standard.


Now I need to tell my mother she failed. She'll be so disappointed.

Oops, she's dead. *whew!* that's a load-off!

OK, I'm not sure why you're dragging your dead mother into this... :?

Anyway, some nice, capital letters at the beginning of every sentence and name, means a more happy day for us all, and a happy smile on all our faces. :wink:


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25 Sep 2009, 6:47 pm

southwestforests wrote:
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anyone else hate the way people spell on the internet?


Which is not to be confused with the similar appearing "anyone else hate the way people smell on the internet?"


LOOL!!


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25 Sep 2009, 7:28 pm

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digger1 wrote:
Henriksson wrote:
You know what really bothers me?

People who don't capitalize the beginning of sentences.

I mean, I don't capitalize the beginning of sentences when I'm on MSN, but I would at least expect people to do so on a public forum.

I notice that the title of this thread doesn't uphold that standard.


Now I need to tell my mother she failed. She'll be so disappointed.

Oops, she's dead. *whew!* that's a load-off!

OK, I'm not sure why you're dragging your dead mother into this... :?

Anyway, some nice, capital letters at the beginning of every sentence and name, means a more happy day for us all, and a happy smile on all our faces. :wink:


it was a joke.

It means that my mother failed because I don't capitalize my letters in front of my sentences in forums.

I should know better than to make jokes 'round here.



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25 Sep 2009, 7:43 pm

I don't have a problem with it.


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26 Sep 2009, 6:54 am

All the schools near where I live in Australia put up big banners saying "Enrol Now".

Enrol? Where the hell did that come from? To put your name on a list or roll is to enroll.

"To enroll oneself or become enrolled; register; enlist; become a member.

Etymology: ME enrollen < OFr enroller: see en- & roll"

I cringe to see the schools themselves advertise their own ignorance. :roll:



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26 Sep 2009, 1:45 pm

Actually, the really 'garbled' bit a couple of pages ago was fairly easy to read. They did a study once, where they re-arranged the 'insides' of words, and left the 1st and last letters the same, and people could read it.

As long as I understand it, and it's not for a professional publication, it doesn't bother me that much...but my original handle a few years ago was 'nu-be'...;)



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26 Sep 2009, 5:54 pm

whats "idk" mean?

edit: never mind I found out myself
It was this title "my GF might have asperger's and idk what to do?"

but for some reason I figured out after long time it must mean " I dont know" :?

I wish I didnt had to bother my mind about such stuff....


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26 Sep 2009, 8:22 pm

What annoys me, is reading text on so-called professional websites, and finding lots of typos and dumb mistakes. The kind of mistakes that happen when people rely too much on spell check, and don't check things themselves. It tends to invalidate whatever they are saying, because one wonders if the person is as knowledgeable as they purport themselves to be. Since we don't know the person writing, we may assume they are not educated.


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27 Sep 2009, 6:58 am

hartzofspace wrote:
What annoys me, is reading text on so-called professional websites, and finding lots of typos and dumb mistakes. The kind of mistakes that happen when people rely too much on spell check, and don't check things themselves. It tends to invalidate whatever they are saying, because one wonders if the person is as knowledgeable as they purport themselves to be. Since we don't know the person writing, we may assume they are not educated.


I agree. I actually often find grammatical and spelling errors in printed books. And exam questions at school (though they tend to be logical fallacies, not errors in the language used). I've actually been told by my RE teacher not to "pick at the questions", just answer them.


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