Do you remember your dreams?
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i know i definitely dream but i can't remember all of them. my dreams are either vague and abstract or freaky. i have no between.
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Very Freudian indeed! Actually, I wonder how Freud would have interpreted that, as he saw everything as symbolism for these kinds of things. I kind of wonder what he would actually make of penises and attacking fathers and if he'd see that as a symbol for something else (maybe even something ordinary!). I don't know enough about Freud to say. I plan to read The Interpretation of Dreams at some point, though, for my love of dreams, and for amusement at the mad theories.
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I remember my dreams and have a very vivid dream life with dream people and real life people and places I visit in different dreams. And sometimes I fall asleep in a dream and then dream inside of that dream - then the wake up sequence is two levels to come back out of it. Pretty trippy. And if I go through a phase where I can't remember my dreams, which is very unusual, I start to feel lonely. Dreaming is a big part of my life.
Like happymusic, I have quite an active dreamlife. I often remember my dreams, and often remember several dreams a night (although I believe they are all one piece, but I tend to narrativise them and break them up so they seem to be several short stories rather than one big stream of crazy).
I credit my dreams with healing a lot of psychic wounds. I often dream of encounters with beautiful, warm, caring people. It's nice, because I don't get a lot of that in reality. In fact I also credit my dreams with keeping me alive through some particularly (mentally) tough times.
Maybe due to that, I've had a really keen interest in all things dream and sleep related. I've been vaguely trying to induce lucid dreaming, it sounds fascinating. No success so far. Any tips appreciated!
That dreaming inside a dream thing is fascinating, happymusic. I guess that it might be possible to get into several layers of depth of dreams... dreaming inside a dream inside a dream inside a... well you get the idea.
I had a friend who told me that he once dreamed he'd woken up, gone through his entire morning ritual of getting dressed, shower, shave, breakfast etc. leaving the house, only to wake up, and realise it was a dream, and have to do it all over again! ![]()
Very Freudian indeed! Actually, I wonder how Freud would have interpreted that, as he saw everything as symbolism for these kinds of things. I kind of wonder what he would actually make of penises and attacking fathers and if he'd see that as a symbol for something else (maybe even something ordinary!). I don't know enough about Freud to say. I plan to read The Interpretation of Dreams at some point, though, for my love of dreams, and for amusement at the mad theories.
Freud would probably see it as evidence of an Elektra complex, which is basically the female version of the Oedipus complex. But Freud doesn't seem to be very cool in psychoanalytic circles these days.
I'd post a link but I'm not allowed to yet!
Talking of phalluses in dreams, I once dreamed I had two penises. One very large, and the other normal size, one 'mounted' above the other. As the dream went on, the two merged together, the larger subsuming the regular one. Amusingly, I had my new more powerful donger, but try as I might, I couldn't make it function in either of it's regular capacities... the dream was symbolic of something, see if you can guess what. And no I was not and have never suffered from impotence in my waking life...
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ooooh, Moog, we sound like-minded - excellent!
I have heard theories (can't remember where) but that all your dreams happen at once, like in the same few moments during the night, but I have vivid dreams and some that build on each other at different times of the night. And I know they're at different times because I often get up and think about them, then go back to bed and dream more. Who knows.
Tibetan Buddhists do some techniques with sleep you might find interesting. Meeting up with others might be something you'd like to try, too (if you haven't already!). My niece and I meet up and then tell my sister the same dream. My sister then freaks out. Once my sister tried it but she was overthinking it and confused herself. Children just go because no one's told them it's impossible.
Your poor friend - like getting up once isn't hard enough!
Hey happymusic, I hope so!
I certainly experience dreams sequentially in time. Sounds an interesting and plausible theory. Some might make an argument that we actually live our lives in something like the same instant, and that time may not unfold, for want of a better word, as we experience it at all. But that's getting way off topic!
Yeah, those Tibetans are interesting guys. I recently bought a copy of the Tibetan Book of the Dead, which is difficult to read but fascinating. One thing I heard those guys are into is dream yoga, which if I understand correctly, is basically meditating in ones sleep. I'd find that useful, as I often don't seem to find enough time in the day.
That's really cool about meeting your niece in dreams! I also have a niece who I am very close to that I must try that with. It seems children are more open to what I like to call 'woo woo' stuff. I'm wondering whether Autistic folks are similar. I know that I'm into some well weird stuff that NTs certainly do shun.
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Very Freudian indeed! Actually, I wonder how Freud would have interpreted that, as he saw everything as symbolism for these kinds of things. I kind of wonder what he would actually make of penises and attacking fathers and if he'd see that as a symbol for something else (maybe even something ordinary!). I don't know enough about Freud to say. I plan to read The Interpretation of Dreams at some point, though, for my love of dreams, and for amusement at the mad theories.
Freud would probably see it as evidence of an Elektra complex, which is basically the female version of the Oedipus complex. But Freud doesn't seem to be very cool in psychoanalytic circles these days.
I'd post a link but I'm not allowed to yet!
Talking of phalluses in dreams, I once dreamed I had two penises. One very large, and the other normal size, one 'mounted' above the other. As the dream went on, the two merged together, the larger subsuming the regular one. Amusingly, I had my new more powerful donger, but try as I might, I couldn't make it function in either of it's regular capacities... the dream was symbolic of something, see if you can guess what. And no I was not and have never suffered from impotence in my waking life...
Psychoanalysis isn't very cool these days.
I am learning a bit more about these things as I'm doing a module in psychology as part of my degree. I would like to see the link if you can post it when you're allowed.
Was your dream symbolic of becoming an adult?
Has anyone here read anything by J. Allan Hobson? I have a book by him that I'm trying to read (I don't get much time to read and I have a poor attention span which makes reading difficult!) He has done a lot of research into how various features of dreams are caused by the biological changes in the brain during sleep. He upset a lot of Freudians, I think!
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Hi Kajjie!
Ah, well I still can't post links yet, but just google Electra complex, and you'll have a wealth of information. It's basically sexual attachment of a female to her father. Although I've since discovered that auntblobby is actually male through reading other parts of this forum, so I'm rather confused, and worried that I might cause offence if I persist with this line of thought.
Your interpretation of my dream being about becoming an adult is a very good one. I think it was symbolic of becoming more 'powerful', more able to take responsibility, and effect positive change for myself and in the world. Or really, having the power, but not being able to wield it fully effectively yet, hence the 'impotence'. I saw it in terms of magical ability at the time, with the penis representing a wizard staff. I've never really felt like an adult, or a child for that matter, and I still don't. But something changed during that period.
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Ah, well I still can't post links yet, but just google Electra complex, and you'll have a wealth of information. It's basically sexual attachment of a female to her father. Although I've since discovered that auntblobby is actually male through reading other parts of this forum, so I'm rather confused, and worried that I might cause offence if I persist with this line of thought.
Your interpretation of my dream being about becoming an adult is a very good one. I think it was symbolic of becoming more 'powerful', more able to take responsibility, and effect positive change for myself and in the world. Or really, having the power, but not being able to wield it fully effectively yet, hence the 'impotence'. I saw it in terms of magical ability at the time, with the penis representing a wizard staff. I've never really felt like an adult, or a child for that matter, and I still don't. But something changed during that period.
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It does get a bit confusing knowing who's male and who's female online! I have had people assume I'm male, so then I went along with it as I liked the novelty of people thinking I was a bloke!
Similar in a way to adulthood, then. I don't believe in magic, so I wouldn't have made that interpretation. Very interesting to hear someone to tell me a dream and also how they interpret it - no one has done that to me before. Well, not with less obvious interpretations - I've heard people say that they had a dream involving cars because their mother bought a new car the day before or things like that, but not more hidden meanings.
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I had a memorable dream last summer. 'Tis not for open fora, as the dream didn't concern only me.
I remember dreams sporadically, but most are forgotten after a few hours.
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Yeah, I like the sexual ambiguity as well. People often mistake me for a woman, and it always secretly pleases me.
I'm not sure if I believe in magic as anything other than a kind of placebo, or a kind of self transforming device, like NLP or self hypnosis. I'd like to think there's more to it. I was heavily into research into magic at the time.
I'm glad you liked interpreting my dream, if I have any more good ones like that, I'll let you know!
Next time someone tells you they dreamed about a car, maybe you want to probe them (gently!). You might ask them how they felt about the car, what colours and shapes, if it was driving or stationary, etc. etc. you might find that you open something interesting up for them, when all they thought is that they had a dream about a car. Or not. It's worth a go!
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