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27 Feb 2011, 8:00 am

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With time and with awareness I am certain that it will eventually be possible and that ideologies such as ownership will be a thing of the past.


It's never worked in any socialist/communist country in history and you want to put people through that misery again?

Free-trade / classical liberalism is the way to go. :)


Capitalism is man exploiting man but communism is the exact opposite :wink: .

I've been a Conservative all my life but this last election was the first time I've ever voted, I was so desperate to get labour out. Labour don't make the poor richer, they make the rich poorer so the poor feel richer.

Hitler was a socialist wasn't he and look at the way he solved his countries problems.

I liked this quote about Tony Bliar.
"Tony immatures with age"



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27 Feb 2011, 8:11 am

"Hitler was a socialist wasn't he and look at the way he solved his countries problems."
:roll: not that this topic seemed particularly worthwhile anyway, but can we kill it now?



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27 Feb 2011, 8:18 am

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Capitalism is man exploiting man but communism is the exact opposite :wink: .


That's a fantastic quote right there! :P



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27 Feb 2011, 10:15 am

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Well, to be fair, the Tories got most of the votes. They just didn't get enough seats to go into Parliament on their own. But they were only able to team up with the Lib Dems because they'd already got so many seats for themselves - clearly they were popular in the election.


This is true, but then add together Lib Dem and Labour votes, I think a lot comes down to us being annoyed by Labour, little other choice and not enough people realised voting Tory during an economic meltdown was a bad move...not enough people remembered Thatcher (although she did some good, and has her fans, for the working class blues in power is always a bad thing).


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27 Feb 2011, 10:40 am

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Well, to be fair, the Tories got most of the votes. They just didn't get enough seats to go into Parliament on their own. But they were only able to team up with the Lib Dems because they'd already got so many seats for themselves - clearly they were popular in the election.


This is true, but then add together Lib Dem and Labour votes, I think a lot comes down to us being annoyed by Labour, little other choice and not enough people realised voting Tory during an economic meltdown was a bad move...not enough people remembered Thatcher (although she did some good, and has her fans, for the working class blues in power is always a bad thing).


Having Labour in power for the economic crisis isn't exactly a great plan either. Who lent the banks tax payer money without devising a way to get it back? Who ran the Budget so it has a £154.7bn gap in it? Who set up a benefit system so easy to exploit that they pay out more in benefits than they get in income tax? Who created needless bureaucracy and quangos for everything? Who expanded the public sector so far that it started eating too far into private sector employment?

The answer to all of those, of course, is Labour.

Don't get me wrong, I don't exactly agree with how the "coalition" (in other words, the Tories with a Lib Dem tea boy) is dealing with things at the moment either, but Labour isn't some sort of ideal party with ideal policies. Far from it.



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27 Feb 2011, 1:08 pm

It is sad to see people throwing in words like socialism and communism when a Resource Based Economy would have nothing to do with any of them.


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27 Feb 2011, 3:45 pm

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As for the Lib Dems being popular with students, that's probably because Nick "Pledge Keeper" Clegg said he'd vote against any rise in tuition fees in the next Parliament... Which is why, as soon as he got power, he supported said rises. The Lib Dems aren't popular with students anymore, trust me.


It's simply shocking that the party which came third isn't able to implement all its policies. Call that democracy? :lol: :roll:


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27 Feb 2011, 3:55 pm

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As for the Lib Dems being popular with students, that's probably because Nick "Pledge Keeper" Clegg said he'd vote against any rise in tuition fees in the next Parliament... Which is why, as soon as he got power, he supported said rises. The Lib Dems aren't popular with students anymore, trust me.


It's simply shocking that the party which came third isn't able to implement all its policies. Call that democracy? :lol: :roll:


so called dMOCracy is just a big mock to me.


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27 Feb 2011, 4:48 pm

Ambivalence wrote:
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As for the Lib Dems being popular with students, that's probably because Nick "Pledge Keeper" Clegg said he'd vote against any rise in tuition fees in the next Parliament... Which is why, as soon as he got power, he supported said rises. The Lib Dems aren't popular with students anymore, trust me.


It's simply shocking that the party which came third isn't able to implement all its policies. Call that democracy? :lol: :roll:


It's not that it couldn't implement them, it's that they actively voted for what they pledged to vote against.



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27 Feb 2011, 5:51 pm

I'm just ashamed David Cameron is the MP of where I currently live! Poor ol Witney!