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Would you be cured if you could?
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13 Jul 2012, 9:43 pm

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The reason why I like having Aspergers is because it makes me different from others, I hate being in the norm.


That's the same reason that I enjoy being an Aspie. :)


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13 Jul 2012, 11:53 pm

Amen to that :D



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14 Jul 2012, 4:08 am

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But those who don't have support can find good books on learning about socializing with NT's, I’m sure there's some good ones on the internet or at your local bookstore......


Right, because doing research and reading are socialable activities. I don't have the social circles to begin talking with anyone else to begin with. Almost every "friend" I have is related to work, or volunteer work.

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What about your special interests ? Are you willing to give up the things you love and obsess over if they had a cure ? Would you rather be one of those NT social zombies who likes everything everybody else likes? I always liked being the odd red smurf in the population of all those blue ones :D


Yeah, I would rather be a social zombie who actually has friends and relationships. It's about the only thing I want. I don't care for money, or career, prestige, class, kids, housing.



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14 Jul 2012, 11:11 am

Moved from The Haven to Random Discussion]

Adolphaxxx - please; only create topics in The Haven which fit under its description, as shown on the main forum index: "For those times when you're feeling blue and need to get a little help from your friends. Discuss all those issues that are not covered by the other forums in the Coping in life category."

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14 Jul 2012, 11:41 am

Im guessing this will be right down the middle half and half. Anyway I wished they had one.



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14 Jul 2012, 12:28 pm

Turn into a brainless zombie like more or less everybody else my age? No, keep it. I'd rather be awkward.

The idea of being like most other 18 year olds makes me sick to my stomach - walking around texting constantly, listening to

HORRID music, getting drunk and getting into fights, watching football and being celebrity obsessed - I'd rather be dead thank you.

However, if I was exactly the same, but without a social disability and difficult sensory issues, then I'd probably take it. But somehow

I feel as if Aspergers makes me the person I am, so in an actual situation where there was a big red button with

"CURE" written on it in capital letters (and preferably in Arial font) I wouldn't really want to press it. It might as well say

"PRESS TO SUBMIT TO THE WILL OF THE BRAINDEAD MASSES."


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14 Jul 2012, 12:50 pm

I have a few role models who are on the spectrum and I'm proud to have successful people to relate to. :)


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14 Jul 2012, 3:36 pm

If they had a cure...
There would be a vast litany of side-effects that supersede the original condition that was cured in terms of severity.



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14 Jul 2012, 6:44 pm

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Right, because doing research and reading are socialable activities. I don't have the social circles to begin talking with anyone else to begin with. Almost every "friend" I have is related to work, or volunteer work.



I still don't see how you should blame this on Autism for lack of friends. But I do understand that not every aspie is alike and some function on higher levels than others. I apologize for sounding stupid and fake, but I'm having a hard time explaining my self here. Okay, I may have hung out with my brother and did get extra help. But maybe I don't see how that should prevent you at least trying to be a little social-able. Maybe the people who lives too far away from town to socialize could do a little reading, but that's still better than doing nothing to learn more about social cues and stuff. When they do get a chance to socialize, I'd at least want to have some idea of what to do, then completely not

I'm angry at the amount of people wanting a cure because to them and you Autism is nothing but a negative thing. Yes I'm happy that not every aspie wants to be cured but I'm wasting my time trying to explain why I would reject the cure and why it annoys me that people are looking at it like it's worse than AIDS and cancer. At least my favorite forum site has a more positive view on Autism, so please ban me I'm f*****g out of here!



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14 Jul 2012, 9:54 pm

what is with the negative connotations around being "Neurotypical"? doesnt this sort of perpetuate the cycle of NT's not understanding people in the autistic spectrum? Why would someone who is an "NT" want to try to befriend and understand someone in the spectrum if they are constantly refering to them as zombies and sheep?

I would consider myself, an NT. I have inate social skills and have always had the ability to communicate verbally in social situations with little to no effort. Does that make me a bad person? I live every day of my life trying to be the best person I can possibly be, understanding and without judgement. I am somewhat discouraged after reading more and more on this forum at the amount of disdain thrown towards people like me, who social skills came easily. I came to this forum because I feel different from everyone, regardless how easily I can communicate, there just seems to a wall between myself and everyone else. Maybe some of my qualities are in the spectrum but over all I would just consider myself a person of above average intelligence. I have had a few friends that were Aspies throughout my life and they have been my closest friends and the people I felt understood me the best. I am just shocked and slightly appalled that I feel I am constantly inadvertantly being put down by 3.5 out of 5 people who post on this fourm. Talking constantly about how people like me will never understand, and dont try to understand.........

I guess my point in saying this is don't you think you have to let someone try to understand you and try to befriend you? Why on earth would I go out of my way to be nice and understand someone who has a negative opinion of me without knowing me? Isnt that what a lot of people in the spectrum are upset about? how NTs have preconceived notions of what an aspie is? From reading here for the last few weeks I have been overwhelmed at the amount of closemindedness towards people considered to be "NT"



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14 Jul 2012, 11:38 pm

stupideffingyoshi wrote:
J-Greens wrote:
Right, because doing research and reading are socialable activities. I don't have the social circles to begin talking with anyone else to begin with. Almost every "friend" I have is related to work, or volunteer work.



I still don't see how you should blame this on Autism for lack of friends. But I do understand that not every aspie is alike and some function on higher levels than others. I apologize for sounding stupid and fake, but I'm having a hard time explaining my self here. Okay, I may have hung out with my brother and did get extra help. But maybe I don't see how that should prevent you at least trying to be a little social-able. Maybe the people who lives too far away from town to socialize could do a little reading, but that's still better than doing nothing to learn more about social cues and stuff. When they do get a chance to socialize, I'd at least want to have some idea of what to do, then completely not

I'm angry at the amount of people wanting a cure because to them and you Autism is nothing but a negative thing. Yes I'm happy that not every aspie wants to be cured but I'm wasting my time trying to explain why I would reject the cure and why it annoys me that people are looking at it like it's worse than AIDS and cancer. At least my favorite forum site has a more positive view on Autism, so please ban me I'm f***ing out of here!


I feel the same way as well. I was actually attacked and contradicted when I expressed that I like everything about my AS. Let's just say that I wasn't around much for the rest of the day. I won't go as far as to leave. I don't want to give my attacker the satisfaction. I do feel that we need to look at things from all sides instead of making personal attacks on the members that we disagree with. I understand that there are some people who want to leave. I've been feeling the same way. The reason that I stay is to be with friends, get support when I need it and support other members when they need support.


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14 Jul 2012, 11:46 pm

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what is with the negative connotations around being "Neurotypical"? doesnt this sort of perpetuate the cycle of NT's not understanding people in the autistic spectrum? Why would someone who is an "NT" want to try to befriend and understand someone in the spectrum if they are constantly refering to them as zombies and sheep?

I would consider myself, an NT. I have inate social skills and have always had the ability to communicate verbally in social situations with little to no effort. Does that make me a bad person? I live every day of my life trying to be the best person I can possibly be, understanding and without judgement. I am somewhat discouraged after reading more and more on this forum at the amount of disdain thrown towards people like me, who social skills came easily. I came to this forum because I feel different from everyone, regardless how easily I can communicate, there just seems to a wall between myself and everyone else. Maybe some of my qualities are in the spectrum but over all I would just consider myself a person of above average intelligence. I have had a few friends that were Aspies throughout my life and they have been my closest friends and the people I felt understood me the best. I am just shocked and slightly appalled that I feel I am constantly inadvertantly being put down by 3.5 out of 5 people who post on this fourm. Talking constantly about how people like me will never understand, and dont try to understand.........

I guess my point in saying this is don't you think you have to let someone try to understand you and try to befriend you? Why on earth would I go out of my way to be nice and understand someone who has a negative opinion of me without knowing me? Isnt that what a lot of people in the spectrum are upset about? how NTs have preconceived notions of what an aspie is? From reading here for the last few weeks I have been overwhelmed at the amount of closemindedness towards people considered to be "NT"


I'm not crazy about the negative connotations myself. Most of the NTs who come to WP have a genuine interest in people on the spectrum and learning about the spectrum. I might have a problem with the odd one on here. Having said that, I think that the vast majority of the NTs who come here want to learns more about ASDs and they're not out to get us. What I've just typed reminds me of an old Beatles song.

And in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make.

If we strive to understand each other better, we'll be able to knock down the walls that divide us and connect with each other.


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14 Jul 2012, 11:49 pm

I have just one more thing to say for tonight and than I'll leave this thread alone for now. Though I don't wish for a cure for myself, I feel that there should be one available for the people who want it. I think that it's great that there are a lot of members who don't wish to be cured. I also see that there are other members who would be happy to be cured. I like to look at things from both sides. 8)


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15 Jul 2012, 9:48 am

I don't know. I would first do a lot of research and see how much people had changed after they took the cure. I don't want to change but I would like to be more aware of other people around me. If it only helped a little bit without changing me then I probably would.

edit: Actually I changed my mind. I just remembered that being detached from others has helped me in some ways because I am totally oblivious to more subtle forms of bullying and taunting, therefore I don't react at all and the bullies get bored of me very quickly. Or so I have been told, anyway. If I got better at realising things about other people but still bad socially then maybe I would suffer more... So my answer is no.



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15 Jul 2012, 6:50 pm

stupideffingyoshi wrote:
I'm angry at the amount of people wanting a cure because to them and you Autism is nothing but a negative thing. Yes I'm happy that not every aspie wants to be cured but I'm wasting my time trying to explain why I would reject the cure and why it annoys me that people are looking at it like it's worse than AIDS and cancer. At least my favorite forum site has a more positive view on Autism, so please ban me I'm f***ing out of here!


I haven't found one positive aspect of having Aspergers personally so far...as I've said my biggest motivation in life is in finding love and building a relationship to support it. Aspergers in no way helps me, infact it makes my goal so much harder. Even building a friendship is difficult, and it shouldn't be. I don't know how to even make friends. People say build interests & hobbies, but there is such a lack of detail that I cannot understand the simplicity of their advice, so what is to be positive of a disorder that makes everything I want practically impossible?

What is actually positive of this disorder?

As for the comparisons to other medical conditions, at least with Cancer and AIDS you know there's an end to all the pain and misery, Aspergers and Autism is a lifelong condition - unless we take matters in our hands.



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15 Jul 2012, 6:54 pm

I like myself and the way I am, but my autism causes real problems when trying to make and keep friends and boyfriends. I would rather be normal and socially satisfied than strange and lonely. :(