CyborgUprising wrote:
Lintar wrote:
Yes.
Reasons:
1. They serve no useful function whatsoever. Their primary purpose - their ONLY purpose, really - is to cause death.
2. In the hands of lunatics they end up causing a great deal of harm and suffering (ex. Breivik in Norway, the Port Arthur massacre, and others too numerous to mention).
3. They are loud (I hate loud noises).
4. No one, apart from the armed forces and law -enforcement, has any good reason to posses them. Farmers can make do with shotguns, but they don't need M-16's or AK-47's. Actually, NO ONE (again, apart from the army) needs an AK-47 or M-16, and so they should not be allowed to own them.
1) Shooting at targets isn't killing. I also have a lamp I made with a Kalashi that was battle-damaged in such a fashion, it wasn't worth fixing (the outside looked fine; the interior components, not so much).
2) So do bombs, knives, corporations, religion, NBC agents (which are surprisingly easy to obtain). Even ideas in the hands of a lunatic are dangerous - look at Hitler, Shiro Ishii, Stalin, etc.
3) So are motorcycles, lawnmowers, some trucks, crowds, loudspeakers, factories and concerts.
4) Nobody
needs a car, phone, computer, television, bed, dresser, dishes, shoes (people in Africa and some parts of India walk barefoot all the time), jewlery, video-games, toys, and other non-necessities. By your logic, we should not allow responsible citizens to own these things either? There are civilian versions of the weapons you mention. Very few civilians own fully-automatic weapons. The ones I own (Browning M2, Soviet-era AK-47 with milled receiver and the Flak 36) were "grandfathered in" by virtue of their age and have been used in expos, where people fire them at targets for mere enjoyment. Plus, it would be rather conspicuous to tow in the Flak, set it up in front of some bloke's house and try to rob the place. Imagine the APB put out on that: "Subject appears to be a white male, driving an olive drab vehicle with an anti-aircraft gun on a trailer." I don't imagine getting past a block before being apprehended.

Point No. 1 My observation that they 'serve no useful function' is still valid even if you only ever use the gun to shoot at inanimate targets on a rifle range. It may be a lot of fun to do so, it may be your hobby and there are certainly other activities that could be described as not being constructive or productive (too many to list), but it has to be said that the development of firearms from the beginning was to inflict harm; that is what principally drove their evolution and development.
Point No. 2 Bombs and knives do cause deaths, but if by 'bombs' you mean explosives in general, then it can at least be said that they are useful to the extent that they can be used by engineers to clear away obstacles in the path of, for example, new construction sites. Knives are also very useful as a general cutting tool, cooks use them on their vegetables all the time. Corporations and religion are not inherently 'dangerous' either, although they can (like politics, which you don't list) be manipulated to serve selfish and sinister ends. Demagogues like Hitler only ever became dangerous because they had A) the mass support of the people, and B) the support of the armed forces behind them. Without either of these Hitler would only ever have been just another deranged windbag, the object of ridicule and jokes.
Point No. 3 Yes, all of those are noisy too, and I try to avoid them as much as I can. This is not really possible most of the time, but I try.
Point No. 4 Actually, I need a car. Where I live, if I did not have one I would be stranded at home and unable to get to work (there is no ready access to public transport), and if this happened I would no longer be able to support myself. I guess what is 'needed' by most people is subject to how one defines the term itself - 'need'. I did not know about the 'civilian versions' of the weapons you mention, where I live (Australia) the possession of assault weapons being illegal for civilians full-stop, without exceptions.