do you agree that this is offensive to women?

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25 Feb 2016, 7:41 am

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It is madness to me that when a man would help out a woman, who is known to be physically weaker than a man most of the time - could possibly be interpreted as offensive.

Offering to help is not offensive. But if the woman says she doesn't want the help, for whatever reason, then that is that. It's not about her being more vulnerable, it's about respecting her decision.



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25 Feb 2016, 7:52 am

androbot01 wrote:
smudge wrote:
It is madness to me that when a man would help out a woman, who is known to be physically weaker than a man most of the time - could possibly be interpreted as offensive.

Offering to help is not offensive. But if the woman says she doesn't want the help, for whatever reason, then that is that. It's not about her being more vulnerable, it's about respecting her decision.


That is not what the OP said. Of course keeping on about something when someone declines your offer is offensive and rude no matter what it is. The OP asked if it was offensive to offer to walk a lady home because you assume she isn't as safe walking alone as with a man.


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25 Feb 2016, 8:21 am

OliveOilMom wrote:
That is not what the OP said.


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Do you agree that's it's offensive and a violation of there humans rights for women when men assume they are not safe to walk home on there own at night and need company to get home?


Jamesy wrote:
Even when a woman says "no" do men still not stop insisting?


I think I'm on topic here.



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25 Feb 2016, 8:46 am

androbot01 wrote:
OliveOilMom wrote:
That is not what the OP said.


Jamesy wrote:
Do you agree that's it's offensive and a violation of there humans rights for women when men assume they are not safe to walk home on there own at night and need company to get home?


Jamesy wrote:
Even when a woman says "no" do men still not stop insisting?


I think I'm on topic here.


I took the second part to be questioning why some men don't stop insisting if a woman says no, not if it's offensive. It's obvious that it's offensive. The answer to why some don't stop is they are rude, or they want to get in her pants or show off or yes in some situations she may have underplayed the danger just as he may have overplayed it in others and keep insisting thinking it's more dangerous than it is or that she can't handle herself. That's how the second part is phrased, anyway.


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25 Feb 2016, 9:13 am

OliveOilMom wrote:
androbot01 wrote:
OliveOilMom wrote:
That is not what the OP said.


Jamesy wrote:
Do you agree that's it's offensive and a violation of there humans rights for women when men assume they are not safe to walk home on there own at night and need company to get home?


Jamesy wrote:
Even when a woman says "no" do men still not stop insisting?


I think I'm on topic here.


I took the second part to be questioning why some men don't stop insisting if a woman says no, not if it's offensive. It's obvious that it's offensive. The answer to why some don't stop is they are rude, or they want to get in her pants or show off or yes in some situations she may have underplayed the danger just as he may have overplayed it in others and keep insisting thinking it's more dangerous than it is or that she can't handle herself. That's how the second part is phrased, anyway.

She may also perceive the man offering protection as a threat.
I think the OP's questions are open to interpretation.



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25 Feb 2016, 9:27 am

I believe it is appropriate to offer to walk a lady home--especially if it's dark and the area is dodgy.

One time, I walked a lady home, and some of her friends were waiting to mug me. This was in the Bronx. They tore my pockets, and took about $200. Luckily, I still had my subway token with me. I had to get on the subway, in my torn pants, and the temperature was about 1 Celsius or so.

It doesn't stop me from making the offer to this day.

I was 25 years old when the mugging occurred. I was so oblivious---that I asked the lady out again!