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PurplePlumz
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06 Sep 2018, 11:07 am

I don't want to have children either. Parents, friends and other relatives of mine try to pressure me into getting married and having children. Some people say I'd make a great parent for some odd reason. Just to clarify: I'm mute, autistic, aromantic, asexual, and mostly just keep myself to myself. So I don't really see what they would expect from me and how it would work?

I understand that others want children though. If someone else wants children or has children they love, good for them.



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06 Sep 2018, 12:06 pm

I used to find it very selfish too, (at least if i were to have children) but i recently started to see it as a great gift for the parents so i'm torn.



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06 Sep 2018, 1:37 pm

i think more people should adopt children.


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06 Sep 2018, 1:44 pm

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expensive? Not really, unless you're sending them to private schools and buying them designer clothes and the latest iPhone. :?


false - diapers cost money

food costs add up

doctor visits, transportation for the little ones, clothing, giving then what they want... i could go on

even if you are thrifty, children are not cheap to keep alive and healthy and happy by any means.


i would like a child, someday, but i am sure i will not have one. i often find myself angry at my parents for bringing me into the world and see them as selfish and impulsive for doing so. i think a lot pf people fail to understand that raising progeny is a lifetime commitment and it requires more then one person to pull off well.

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b) because if there is even a chance they feel like me I would have created a life of existential suffering for them.


this statement resonates with me and is one of the reasons why i feel bad for having the desire to be a parent that i mentioned earlier.

i want to sample the joys if parenting everyone raves about, but i know i'd just be putting him through hell by having me as a dad.

who would want me as their father?

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When I was about 18, my father told me "People have children as a sort of investment". Still don't know what he meant by that. :scratch:


i guess he means that some people use their kids as extensions of themselves, to do things they didn't get the chance to do.

more literally, you can groom your kid to be rich and famous (fred trump and earl woods), live off their fame and they'll support you and take care of you when you're old and feeble.


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06 Sep 2018, 1:54 pm

Kiprobalhato wrote:
Raleigh wrote:
expensive? Not really, unless you're sending them to private schools and buying them designer clothes and the latest iPhone. :?


false - diapers cost money

food costs add up

doctor visits, transportation for the little ones, clothing, giving then what they want... i could go on

even if you are thrifty, children are not cheap to keep alive and healthy by any means.

Well, we never went hungry, unclothed or unhoused.
There is also the baby bonus, family payment, family tax benefit A & B, free medical and dental, free schooling & text book hire schemes.
Or is this just because I live in Australia? :?


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06 Sep 2018, 1:55 pm

maybe.


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06 Sep 2018, 3:26 pm

It always amazes me how people who don't have children think they're the experts on raising them.

No, the premise is faulty, and those parents mentioned must be the most terrible parents on the planet, since I'm a parent, and I've rarely heard any parent say that about their kids.

And no, it's not immoral to give birth to children, all animals do it, we included.

And my daughter is the best thing that ever happened to me, she's not expensive in the least, nor did i ever regret having her. Here children have medical care, and no we paid almost nothing for her medical care. Food? Give me a break. free schooling too, free dentists too.

And yes, IMO this thread is insulting to the parents, and to the children.



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06 Sep 2018, 3:40 pm

Let's all take a moment to honour parents.

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06 Sep 2018, 3:48 pm

I think all views have been represented now, and I appreciate the OP realising and posting (a page back) that this thread may be offensive and suggesting it be locked in that case. It's a very very sensitive topic that can easily veer into unintended offence, and as there is nothing new to add, I think locking it at this stage is timely.