What Different Kinds of Privilege?

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11 Jul 2019, 7:48 am

The Tutsi felt entitled to be privileged, based merely on the fact that they were Tutsi.

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11 Jul 2019, 8:04 am

[quote="KT67"] I assume we don't know but they do. They wouldn't frame it in that way but they'd know who was the occupier, who was the occupied, who was the majority, who was the minority etc. The ins and outs of it.
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Well then it doesn't make sense to insist that it's "White", now does it?

And also, the grudge between the Rwandan ethnic groups is very old, and there have been genocides coming from both sides aimed at the other.

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11 Jul 2019, 8:12 am

That’s true.

But the Tutsi were always the “privileged” group.

The 1994 Genocide was unprecedented.

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11 Jul 2019, 8:15 am

Redxk wrote:

I would add country-of-origin privilege.

A new one: "Citizenship Privilege".

dyadiccounterpoint wrote:

What about familial privilege? Being born into a successful family can often enable other privileges.

Covered by "Economic Privilege"

League_Girl wrote:

Wealth privilege

Covered by "Economic Privilege".

League_Girl wrote:

Being born into wealth privilege

Covered by "Economic Privilege".

League_Girl wrote:

Loving and supportive parent privilege

Another new one: "Filial Privilege".

League_Girl wrote:

NT privilege

Covered by "Ableness Privilege".

League_Girl wrote:

Able bodied privilege

Covered by "Ableness Privilege".

League_Girl wrote:

Intelligence privilege

Covered by "Cognitive Privilege".

League_Girl wrote:

Straight privilege

Covered by "Heterosexual Privilege".

League_Girl wrote:

Christian privilege

Covered by "Religious Privilege".

cyberdad wrote:

White privilege

Covered by "Racial Privilege".

The Grand Inquisitor wrote:

Health Privilege.

Covered by "Ableness Privilege".

Updated List:

• Ableness Privilege
• Age Privilege
• Athletic Privilege
• Beauty Privilege
• Celebrity Privilege
• Citizenship Privilege
• Cognitive Privilege
• Economic Privilege
• Educational Privilege
• Employment Privilege
• Filial Privilege
• Heterosexual Privilege
• Female Privilege
• Leadership Privilege
• LGBTQ Privilege
• Male Privilege
• Marital Privilege
• Political Privilege
• Racial Privilege
• Religious Privilege
• Singlehood Privilege
• Widowhood-Survivor Privilege

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11 Jul 2019, 9:09 am

kraftiekortie wrote:

The 1994 Genocide was unprecedented.

1972 in Burundi (borders Rwanda to the south). Different nation, but the same ethnic groups. Except this time it was the mostly-Tutsi army mass-killing Hutus. In 1993, also in Burundi, in the wake of a presidential assassination and the civil unrest that followed, Hutus and sympathetic parts of the military started a targeted campaign of mass-killings against the Tutsi population. This just one year before the same happened in Rwanda. So I think calling it "unprecedented" is somewhat stretching the definition of that word.

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11 Jul 2019, 9:13 am

The term privilege is being thrown around way too much. I hate buzzwords :evil:

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11 Jul 2019, 9:23 am

The Genocide between Tutsis and Hutus in the Rwanda/Burundi region from 1993-1994 was unprecedented----let me put it that way.

Under colonial administration (mostly the Germans), in fact, Rwanda and Burundi were combined for a while in an entity known as Ruanda/Urundi.

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11 Jul 2019, 9:29 am

BenderRodriguez wrote:

The term privilege is being thrown around way too much. I hate buzzwords.

Same here. It seems to me that many of the people accusing others of 'Privilege' are blind to their own privileges. That's what started me on this thread.

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11 Jul 2019, 9:30 am

Again, how was it unprecedented when the first targeted mass-killing between these two groups was in 1972?

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11 Jul 2019, 9:32 am

BenderRodriguez wrote:

The term privilege is being thrown around way too much. I hate buzzwords :evil:

Privilege is 2019 is largely a weaponized term used to guilt trip people and delegitimize opinion by delegitimizing the person expressing the opinion ie “you have ——— privilege, you can never understand”.

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11 Jul 2019, 9:32 am

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Again, how was it unprecedented when the first targeted mass-killing between these two groups was in 1972?

Please stop politicizing my threads. Take your petty argument to a thread of your own, instead.

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11 Jul 2019, 9:32 am

Wolfram87 wrote:

KT67 wrote:

I assume we don't know but they do. They wouldn't frame it in that way but they'd know who was the occupier, who was the occupied, who was the majority, who was the minority etc. The ins and outs of it.

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Well then it doesn't make sense to insist that it's "White", now does it?

And also, the grudge between the Rwandan ethnic groups is very old, and there have been genocides coming from both sides aimed at the other.

I agree.

I think so much emphasis is put on white privilege because the notion of privilege was originally an American one.

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11 Jul 2019, 9:33 am

There were too many murders in 1972 in the Rwanda/Burundi region----but they were about 1/10 of the quantity of murders which took place in 1993-1994.

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11 Jul 2019, 9:34 am

Fnord wrote:

Wolfram87 wrote:

Again, how was it unprecedented when the first targeted mass-killing between these two groups was in 1972?

Please stop politicizing my threads. Take your petty argument to a thread of your own, instead.

Your thread was already political... The debate about if privilege is a thing or not and what it means is political.

I agree though, people are going off topic into a specific area.

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11 Jul 2019, 9:36 am

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BenderRodriguez wrote:

The term privilege is being thrown around way too much. I hate buzzwords.

It reminds me of the childish protest, "That's not fair! He cheated! He used his intelligence and beat me at chess! WAAAAH!", which would now be replaced by "You are abusing your cognitive privilege..." :roll:

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11 Jul 2019, 9:37 am

cyberdad wrote:

kraftiekortie wrote:

King went against the prevailing grain.

He did not give in to it.

Thurgood Marshall effected change through his insistence on universal, fundamental HUMAN rights. He insisted on equal footing amongst all people. He made use of the prevailing “white privilege” system, rather than concede to it. He didn’t place people apart based upon fundamental and ingrained “privilege.”

If he did that in 1954, he would have been laughed out of court.

One is a concept (privilege) another (white privilege) is an actual phenomenon responsible for health disparity in non-whites
https://theconversation.com/how-anti-bl ... alth-99005

It's also recognised here in Australia for explaining why aboriginal people have shorter lives
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5496226/

These articles talk about about bias and discrimination not privilege.

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