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06 Mar 2020, 4:23 pm

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From what I've understood, the thing that makes it more dangerous than a regular disease is that it attacks the lungs more directly. I also read that out of those who get infected, 80 % get mild symptoms (might end up bedridden, but mild anyway) and the remaining 20 % get in to a bad shape. The later are usually those with compromised health, in other words either elderly OR those with chronic health problems, especially if it's a lung problem. Healthy young people can die from it as well, but the chances are a lot lower.

I'd say that everyone who doesn't belong to the risky groups should just take better care of their hygiene than they usually do for now and wait for further instructions. Those who do (including myself) should limit their exposure to other people for the sake of their own safety... though that's hard if one works in customer service and/or has to use public transport. Now would be a good time to be temporarily unemployed...


Ha ha, that would be a hard one for me...I use public transit and my job mostly consists of tagging used clothes. So I am on the bus around people and touch other peoples donated clothes all day.


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06 Mar 2020, 4:24 pm

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It's not easy to avoid. Tonight at work I've been disinfecting the inside of all the buses in the bus garage where I work, but come tomorrow morning the germs will be back on everything again when people are getting on after touching money to pay the bus fare, even though the coronavirus isn't in my city yet you still never know who's getting on the buses. And no matter how much they stress all these precautions on the media, you can't predict that everyone is going to follow those rules. And the virus is spreading as we speak. So how can you really avoid it apart from wash your hands every other minute of the day?


The past couple days, the busses I have been taking have some of the windows open in the morning even though its still cold. I suspect it may have something to do with trying to keep better airflow due to the potential risk of that illness, not sure though. Guess next time I take the bus I could ask if that's why.


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06 Mar 2020, 4:28 pm

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You know I hate to have to wish for this...but I almost hope enough natural destruction and coronavirus happens that they have no choice but to take funds away from the wall. So I say bring it on storm season, maybe that is not very considerate but then the wall is not very considerate to the plight of south american asylum seekers is it? Nor is it considerate to the wildlife or ecosystems on the border.


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06 Mar 2020, 4:46 pm

Do not worry about the virus. There is a huge amount of hype going on. Besides that, there is nothing we can do so worrying about it will not help. Relax!
The news will make a big thing of it where at present the number of deaths worldwide is far smaller statistically then getting killed by a traffic accident.


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06 Mar 2020, 6:25 pm

I'm not worried about myself getting it, I'm more worried about some of the people I love, as I have some elderly relatives, and my boyfriend has COPD and my dad has asthma. I live in a busy area, it's a big surprise that the coronavirus hasn't hit here yet but if or when it does it will probably spread fast.


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08 Mar 2020, 2:20 am

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08 Mar 2020, 3:37 am

Wouldn't the vaccine be most usefull if given to the poor working class? I mean, they're the ones most likely to hide the fact that they have the virus (if their symptoms are mild) and go to work because, along with not being able to afford health care, they're likely not able to afford missing work either in the fear of getting kicked out/have their hours cut. From what I've understood, this is legal in America... I read about one woman who was at work due to swine flu back in the day because her boss threatened to fire her if she didn't come to work and she needed the money. :?



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08 Mar 2020, 5:01 am

I'm still more concerned about people hoarding stuff. Last time I went shopping I couldn't get some stuff I needed because it was sold out. I'll have to try and get that stuff on Monday and probably try a few more shops. :?



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08 Mar 2020, 5:06 am

i've heard some really scary stuff about reinfections happening soon and killing the second time around, how the body doesn't build up immunities, how it hides in your nervous system after "recovery" and attacks your lungs each time.

that would be awful if it were true. no cases confirmed on my island yet but i have been to places where there has been community transmission several times...our medical infrastructure is lackluster for the size, no major hospital, my housemate is ill.

i am young, pretty fit, lungs okay, could be better. i don't want to be worrying - but there is nothing more terrifying to me than not being able to breathe.


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08 Mar 2020, 5:19 am

It is mostly 60+ and the chronically ill who are at risk Kip, on Israeli news health experts were saying that people of asian descent are particularly vulnerable for some reason.


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08 Mar 2020, 5:22 am

Black death killed around 25 million people
The Spanish Flu killed between 50 to 100 million people more than the two world wars combined.
Corona Virus has been estimated to kill between 100 million+ based on computer modelling.
Corona Virus is the biggest event of the 21st century bar none.



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08 Mar 2020, 5:22 am

Kiprobalhato wrote:
i've heard some really scary stuff about reinfections happening soon and killing the second time around, how the body doesn't build up immunities, how it hides in your nervous system after "recovery" and attacks your lungs each time.

that would be awful if it were true. no cases confirmed on my island yet but i have been to places where there has been community transmission several times...our medical infrastructure is lackluster for the size, no major hospital, my housemate is ill.

i am young, pretty fit, lungs okay, could be better. i don't want to be worrying - but there is nothing more terrifying to me than not being able to breathe.


I haven't heard that. It is panicking me too and it's all China's fault. I just want this nightmare to be over. I don't want to have to shut myself indoors for 2 weeks, I'll go mad! And I can't afford to 'panic buy' and stock all up like that. Also I don't want to miss two weeks off work, I know the UK government has allowed sick pay but that won't be the full pay and I've got bills and rent to pay, I need my full wages.


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08 Mar 2020, 5:27 am

All I know from the bulk buying of toilet rolls is that some people are going to try and crap the virus out of themselves ;)


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08 Mar 2020, 8:52 am

What annoys me more than the panicking hoarders are the people who laugh at those who are cautious and treat the virus like an ordinary cold... sure, it's not likely to be all that harmful to those who are young and healthy, but there are plenty of us who are in the risk groups and if a young and healthy person who thinks it's no big deal catches it, he/she could infect some of us and, in the worst case scenario, be partly responsible of our deaths. Even my sister tends to laugh about it and say that people are overreacting, which is easy for her to say since she's healthy, but half of our family are in the risk group, my mom and half sister due to asthma and me due to low immune system.

And no, risk groups isolating themselves is not a solution. Could work for the retired and unemployed, sure, but plenty of us work. Some, like my mom who is a nurse, have jobs that absolutely must be done, so we can't just stop working as a group. Of course, those who have a possibility to work from home should aim for that, but there are plenty of people who can't do that.



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08 Mar 2020, 9:58 am

I know people who can't afford to become ill with any kind of virus, as they are undergoing treatments for cancer and other health problems. I'm strong and healthy, but can't tolerate any sort of disruption of my life. I absolutely don't need any kind of yucky bug that's going to make me feel like garbage.



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08 Mar 2020, 2:53 pm

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All I know from the bulk buying of toilet rolls is that some people are going to try and crap the virus out of themselves ;)
:lol: That's what I thought about the people hoarding toilet-paper in preparation of the Y2K virus & I was very confused as to how that would work :scratch:


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