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26 May 2020, 10:43 am

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Is it a crime to make a customer service complaint,that's what people pay money for,is for service.

I have worked extensively in the restaurant business myself and I assure all that no one gets fired over frivolous complaints,if waitors/waitresses got fired for forgeting the ketchup or bringing a black Russian instead of a Martini then everyone would be fired because everyone has done it.

There are no mass firings of prolitarian workers because of so called Karen types and most frivolous complaints are rarely taken serious by management anyway,most managers were workers once themselves.

Sometimes a customer should complain but this usually results in a simple talking to,not any type of severe discipline.

Such slurs like "Karen" are not only mean but unnecessary as well.


You're still not getting it. It's not about the complaint, it's about the attitude and the inflated sense of self-importance to the point where other people are insignificant.

Storytime: I work in regional government, specifically in the bureaucracy pertaining to healthcare clinics. One day a co-worker who's in customer service gets a call. A woman feels she has been terribly wronged, and proceeds to spew so much bile over my co-worker for the next hour, calling her lazy and stupid and incompetent, to the point that she's in tears by the end. They didn't manage to resolve the issue. The next day she calls another of my co-workers. Same story. After the third time she's called in and repeated the procedure our boss said to connect her to her should she call in again. I don't think anything came of it, but here's the twist. What was her complaint? She had paid for a doctors visit in cash, and received a hand-written reciept. She demanded that she be given a machine-printed one.

THAT is a Karen.

You like story,I've got one,an old I'm no longer in contact with because of his arrogance.

He went to the bank in Burlington,VT and the teller wouldn't cash his check,she said it was policy and that she was following the rules.

He said she only refused to cash the check because he is fat and that she is prejudiced against fat people.She began to cry and had to leave her post and go to the back office.This woman felt humiliation.

There is no evidence the check wasn't cashed because this guy is fat.

The point is anyone from any walk of life can hurt someone in customer service.

Making this about women and entitled white privilege is sexist and racist and likely classist too.Its vulgar,it's bigoted and it's plain wrong.


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26 May 2020, 10:49 am

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26 May 2020, 11:05 am

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26 May 2020, 11:13 am

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Story


Your point being that someone decided to be a cry-bully and not a Karen, and therefore the stereotype/meme is invalid?


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Making this about women and entitled white privilege is sexist and racist and likely classist too.Its vulgar,it's bigoted and it's plain wrong.


I agree. Which is why no one is doing that. I'll say it again: Attitude. Karens come in all colours and shapes and sizes. The typical image of a Karen is as it is mostly because of the influence of American culture on Internet culture, so obviously the typical description of the archetype will be America-centric, but not America-specific.


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26 May 2020, 11:56 am

If I report you to the moderator does that make me a "Fnord"?

Forget microagression, this is a nanoagression.

Seriously, this is what people are worried about during a pandemic?

I have had a lot of snarky fun with "Ok Boomer" and how people reacted to it, since it was aimed at my demographic and my occasional way of thinking, but with the exception of the above I am staying out of this one.


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26 May 2020, 12:09 pm

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If I report you to the moderator does that make me a "Fnord"?


How much Fnord could a fnordfnord fnord if a fnordfnord could fnord Fnord? If becoming a Fnord is your goal, I guess it's worth the attempt?


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Seriously, this is what people are worried about during a pandemic?


Stuck at home and bored, so not that surprising.


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26 May 2020, 12:11 pm

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I've never heard of this before.

Where do you guys hear this? Is it in the media or do you hear it from real people?


Some Karen-heavy news.


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26 May 2020, 1:50 pm

Herbert, Herbert, Herbert, Herbert, Herbert!


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26 May 2020, 2:05 pm

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Herbert, Herbert, Herbert, Herbert, Herbert!


Why not Hisbert, you sexist?


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26 May 2020, 2:09 pm

"The point is anyone from any walk of life can hurt someone in customer service."

Correct. That's why ANYone can be a "Karen".

"Making this about women and entitled white privilege is sexist and racist and likely classist too.Its vulgar,it's bigoted and it's plain wrong."

But ANYone can be a "Karen". I'm not sure why that part is so difficult to understand... The term "Karen" targets people of any race or gender who are bratty whiney and entitled. It means "someone who is bratty whiney and entitled". It is wrong to point out that bratty whiney entitled people are bratty whiney and entitled?

"How dare you call me a jerk when I acted like a jerk!" Yeah, so unfair.

The source of the term may have come from a blonde white woman in a bob cut hairstyle, but the term is not exclusive to the individual, nor are those qualities a requirement to be a "Karen". White people just don't like the fact that they were the source of any type of negative image, and the privileged always shriek outrage when their privilege is called out.



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26 May 2020, 2:14 pm

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26 May 2020, 2:19 pm

Any relation to Justin Case?


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26 May 2020, 2:36 pm

uncommondenominator wrote:
"The point is anyone from any walk of life can hurt someone in customer service."

Correct. That's why ANYone can be a "Karen".

"Making this about women and entitled white privilege is sexist and racist and likely classist too.Its vulgar,it's bigoted and it's plain wrong."

But ANYone can be a "Karen". I'm not sure why that part is so difficult to understand... The term "Karen" targets people of any race or gender who are bratty whiney and entitled. It means "someone who is bratty whiney and entitled". It is wrong to point out that bratty whiney entitled people are bratty whiney and entitled?

"How dare you call me a jerk when I acted like a jerk!" Yeah, so unfair.

The source of the term may have come from a blonde white woman in a bob cut hairstyle, but the term is not exclusive to the individual, nor are those qualities a requirement to be a "Karen". White people just don't like the fact that they were the source of any type of negative image, and the privileged always shriek outrage when their privilege is called out.
There are many grey areas as to what is or is not being a jerk,and as a person who worked many years in customer service I don't deny that some customers treat you wrong(especially the guy who put a knife to my throat and said "gimme your money) but I don't know if coming up with new slurs is really the answer the tough realities of customer service.I have said my piece,I'm not going to argue this thread any longer,I've said what I can say at this point.

Whatever the problem is and customer service has no shortage of problems,but inventing more reasons to hate isn't the answer.I'm not that angry with the guy that robbed me,he must have had a bad drug habbit and he didn't kill me so I don't know.I'm not arguing anymore.


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26 May 2020, 2:42 pm

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Herbert, Herbert, Herbert, Herbert, Herbert!

Why not Hisbert, you sexist?

OK, Karen.



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26 May 2020, 2:43 pm

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OK, Karen.



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