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If you are Australian, do you love your country?
Yes 47%  47%  [ 28 ]
No 12%  12%  [ 7 ]
Other 42%  42%  [ 25 ]
Total votes : 60

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10 Dec 2007, 8:48 am

There are certain features of the Australian dialect that you might want to learn before you go, just so that you won't be completely lost.

Sheila = a woman

Cobber = a man

G'day = Hello

To Root = To Shag (as in Austin Powers' vocabulary)

"G'day, Sport! How're they hangin'?" = "Good Morning, Sir. How are you today?"

"Left and Right" = "Fine, thank you."

Barbie = Barbecue

Barbie on the Beach = Barbecue on the Beach

(when invited to an Australian barbie, you would be expected to bring your own meat to cook).

Pommie (or is it Pummie?) = an English person

Sepo = Yank = an American person



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10 Dec 2007, 10:09 am

Well maybe you should get the full booklet then (Apparently driving is complicated enough to warrant a whole book, albeit a small one.) I was being ironic (I think?) by the way.

In Canberra you can get mugged, phones, money whatever. That is second hand of course. However as to Deception Bay I have had some personal experience, I spent some time with the family renting there and ended up getting into a scuffle I can't remember, I have also heard terrible things about the school.

From me? Not so much, since I'm very new to the work force. But you could ask around or something I suppose.

Try setting up a Bird House, you should be able to buy one and set it up with not much trouble and be able to attract birds.

No, more like 300 000 Aus. And that's in Townsville where the economy is good.

I wouldn't expect it to, but then humidity plays a factor too, for all you know 'luck' could be on your side and the humidity is higher here.

As I think I said I live in the Suburbs, that is, not quite urban not quite rural, and I don't often get into the city. But I do know that this is a really Multicutural place, you can get Indian food (Been there done that), Chinese (Duh), Australian (Duh), Italian (Duh), and various other styles.

Those are big companies, this is about small ones like say a Private Hospital or that shop down the street, oh and you can be fired for no reason at all.

Aside from my immediate relatives and the way in which they deal with my Aspie traits, yes.

Pretty much.

Really? I just have to go to Centrelink every fortnight.


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10 Dec 2007, 10:11 am

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Important information: You may not want to trust anything I've said as I am an Atheist. :wtg:


Why? It's not like I'm asking for a dissertation about the Trinity.


Wow, I could've sworn this was a thinly veiled attempt at getting us to write an Essay on the Gospel. :lol:


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10 Dec 2007, 10:19 am

pandabear wrote:
There are certain features of the Australian dialect that you might want to learn before you go, just so that you won't be completely lost.

Sheila = a woman

Cobber = a man

G'day = Hello

To Root = To Shag (as in Austin Powers' vocabulary)

"G'day, Sport! How're they hangin'?" = "Good Morning, Sir. How are you today?"

"Left and Right" = "Fine, thank you."

Barbie = Barbecue

Barbie on the Beach = Barbecue on the Beach

(when invited to an Australian barbie, you would be expected to bring your own meat to cook).

Pommie (or is it Pummie?) = an English person

Sepo = Yank = an American person


You know out of all those words I've only heard "Pommy", and "Barbie" used. I think it's extremely regional, for example in more rural areas it'll probably sound "more Australian", and in the NT it'll probably sound more Aboriginal.


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10 Dec 2007, 12:48 pm

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oh and you can be fired for no reason at all.



In the USA, you can get fired for no reason at all, unless you are a government employee, in which case they have to spend several months putting together a lot of paperwork.



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10 Dec 2007, 2:49 pm

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Good to know. What laws do they have about pedestrians and bicyclists?


Try not to hit either of em.....

Mind you, we do have the game 'Pedestrian Cricket' ....


Pedestrian Cricket? Is that like baseball only using cars as the bats and humans as the ball?

Cricket is similar to baseball isn't it except you're trying to knock something that is balanced over and there are a lot of batters?



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10 Dec 2007, 3:19 pm

pandabear wrote:
There are certain features of the Australian dialect that you might want to learn before you go, just so that you won't be completely lost.


I really appreciate the effort although I wouldn't be going until after I have a college education (studying electronics on my own now to prepare for trade school) possibly until after my mom dies because she needs to be looked after and my sister will be moving out soon maybe and I need a good home for my (genetically Australian) birds to go to (and I will sure miss them, especially Patty and Pavi who usually come to nap on my shoulders.)

pandabear wrote:
Sheila = a woman


I've heard that on a movie before.

pandabear wrote:
Cobber = a man


That's new to me.

pandabear wrote:
G'day = Hello


Sounds kinda British.

pandabear wrote:
To Root = To Shag (as in Austin Powers' vocabulary)


Is that considered a vulgar term?

pandabear wrote:
"G'day, Sport! How're they hangin'?" = "Good Morning, Sir. How are you today?"


If you ever move to the Ghetto you will hear, "What's up my man?" or other variations including "Yo man, wazzup?!" it all is basically a greeting/interrogative of the same nature.

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"Left and Right" = "Fine, thank you."


Like, both hands equals?

pandabear wrote:
Barbie = Barbecue


Ah, a movie title may make more sense then... except it had nothing to do with Australia so maybe not still. Oh well.

pandabear wrote:
Barbie on the Beach = Barbecue on the Beach
(when invited to an Australian barbie, you would be expected to bring your own meat to cook).


So, if I bring my sister's doll collection it wont be appreciated?

pandabear wrote:
Pommie (or is it Pummie?) = an English person


Like from pomegranate which is a noble food or where did that word come from?

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Sepo = Yank = an American person


I can understand Yank being from Yankee, but is Sepo meaning Southerner or is it of another language and refers to any American?



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10 Dec 2007, 3:55 pm

Deus_ex_machina wrote:
Well maybe you should get the full booklet then (Apparently driving is complicated enough to warrant a whole book, albeit a small one.) I was being ironic (I think?) by the way.


We have similar books which are about 32 pages with illustrations. Same deal?

Deus_ex_machina wrote:
In Canberra you can get mugged, phones, money whatever. That is second hand of course. However as to Deception Bay I have had some personal experience, I spent some time with the family renting there and ended up getting into a scuffle I can't remember, I have also heard terrible things about the school.


8O It sounds like you dissociated then, I hope you don't have DID because of that event.

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From me? Not so much, since I'm very new to the work force. But you could ask around or something I suppose.


What kind of work do you do?

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Try setting up a Bird House, you should be able to buy one and set it up with not much trouble and be able to attract birds.


Are there laws and regulations about putting up birdhouses and bird feeders if you live on certain types of property (like an apartment?)

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No, more like 300 000 Aus. And that's in Townsville where the economy is good.


About 180,000 USD then. Pretty much the same price then.

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I wouldn't expect it to, but then humidity plays a factor too, for all you know 'luck' could be on your side and the humidity is higher here.


:? As nice as snow is to see it is not nice to shovel.

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As I think I said I live in the Suburbs, that is, not quite urban not quite rural, and I don't often get into the city. But I do know that this is a really Multicutural place, you can get Indian food (Been there done that), Chinese (Duh), Australian (Duh), Italian (Duh), and various other styles.


What are some Australian dishes?

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Those are big companies, this is about small ones like say a Private Hospital or that shop down the street, oh and you can be fired for no reason at all.


So who is this politician Rudd and how does he plan to change this?

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Aside from my immediate relatives and the way in which they deal with my Aspie traits, yes.


I have problems with my family and how they handle me in that regard too.

Deus_ex_machina wrote:
Pretty much.


8O Really? Even in Lamington National Park? How would I go about getting licensed for a firearm then? Or a sword? Pepperspray? Stun gun? Microwave pulse laser? Millimeter wave generator? What is legal to protect yourself with there?

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Really? I just have to go to Centrelink every fortnight.


I think they wouldn't consider "foreigner with disability" as someone they want to grant citizenship to. I want to be a productive member of society and not live off the government anyway.



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10 Dec 2007, 3:59 pm

Deus_ex_machina wrote:
pandabear wrote:
There are certain features of the Australian dialect that you might want to learn before you go, just so that you won't be completely lost.

Sheila = a woman

Cobber = a man

G'day = Hello

To Root = To Shag (as in Austin Powers' vocabulary)

"G'day, Sport! How're they hangin'?" = "Good Morning, Sir. How are you today?"

"Left and Right" = "Fine, thank you."

Barbie = Barbecue

Barbie on the Beach = Barbecue on the Beach

(when invited to an Australian barbie, you would be expected to bring your own meat to cook).

Pommie (or is it Pummie?) = an English person

Sepo = Yank = an American person


You know out of all those words I've only heard "Pommy", and "Barbie" used. I think it's extremely regional, for example in more rural areas it'll probably sound "more Australian", and in the NT it'll probably sound more Aboriginal.


Are there any courses for learning how to speak the Aboriginal languages? Would it be useful to know them?



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10 Dec 2007, 4:07 pm

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oh and you can be fired for no reason at all.



In the USA, you can get fired for no reason at all, unless you are a government employee, in which case they have to spend several months putting together a lot of paperwork.


No. You can lose your job for one of three main reasons: 1) layoffs, where they no longer need you but you are still hire-able. 2) Quit, you chose to leave for some personal reason but you are still hire-able. 3) Fired, management has deemed you unfit to work and your application is considered trash if you list it and can be fired for omission of detail if you don't.

Similar going-ons in Australia?



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10 Dec 2007, 7:22 pm

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No worries. I don't mind that you or anyone else is Christian, it's just that some people tend to go overboard with the sermonizing. I guess we may in some cases just have to agree to disagree.


That's cool with me. :) If you have anymore input about Australia I'll be happy to hear.



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10 Dec 2007, 7:44 pm

The IR laws introduced by Howard were meant to make it easier for bosses to sack employees for reasons tehy saw fit, but the 'unfair dismissal' provisions were too one sided. Rudd has promised to roll back the legislation and give the workers a better go.

'Pedestrian cricket' is more or less a term for bowling over pedestrians, much like bowling over a wicket. It would take far too much time to explain cricket, but it is quite different to baseball.

Footy is another term you'd have to get used to; either rugby league or Australian rules football. Both codes are played in most areas, but the former is mostly popular in NSW and QLD, while the latter is primarily Victorian in origin.


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10 Dec 2007, 10:17 pm

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The IR laws introduced by Howard were meant to make it easier for bosses to sack employees for reasons they saw fit, but the 'unfair dismissal' provisions were too one sided. Rudd has promised to roll back the legislation and give the workers a better go.


Is Rudd in power yet or is this a campaign promise? Here in America the job security stinks - especially for low end jobs - but "for reasons they saw fit" is worse. Here they have to have "legitimate" reasons for firing someone and can get sued if they fire someone for illegitimate reasons (such as if they are black or Irish or a woman and the employer doesn't want them.) So if they want to fire someone for an illegitimate reason they have to come up with a "legitimate", or rather nonillegitimate, reason (e.g. their shoe was untied, they were 5 minutes late to work one day, got sick and didn't call in 3 weeks in advance, etcetera.)

The_Chosen_One wrote:
'Pedestrian cricket' is more or less a term for bowling over pedestrians, much like bowling over a wicket. It would take far too much time to explain cricket, but it is quite different to baseball.


Pedestrian cricket is running them over? Is cricket a contact sport?

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Footy is another term you'd have to get used to; either rugby league or Australian rules football. Both codes are played in most areas, but the former is mostly popular in NSW and QLD, while the latter is primarily Victorian in origin.


Football which America calls soccer or a version of American football?



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11 Dec 2007, 12:47 am

pandabear wrote:
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oh and you can be fired for no reason at all.



In the USA, you can get fired for no reason at all, unless you are a government employee, in which case they have to spend several months putting together a lot of paperwork.


You're kidding. :?


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11 Dec 2007, 1:13 am

I don't know how many pages it has.

No that tends to happen whenever I get in a fight or get angry.

I don't do anything yet, but I'm looking for work. I'm with a not-for-profit program/company called Spectrum.

Damn I don't know, I'm not exactly up to date on our laws. But I think it would be fine.

No that was the cheapest house I could find, in the cheapest city I could think of, not a typical house.

Try dealing with Hail, I heard on the news that we recently got battered with Hail stones that were the size of cricket balls, which is enough to put lovely holes in your cars windsreen and cracks everywhere else.

This may come as a surprise but I'm not really an expert on Australian culture either, I know what I experience and I don't know what others don't. But if it's any help I often have some Meat Pie for dinner. And I don't think you'd be interested in Damper.

Yes he is in power but has only been in for a little while, maybe a month or so. He's our version of a Democrate, sort of, but both Labour (Which is the party he leads) and the Liberals are closer to the centre than your parties. We also have really cool parties like LDP and the Greens both of which I've mentioned a couple of times in other Threads.

You don't know what Cricket is?

Footy is somewhat like your Football yes, but here we have really short tight pants so that we look sexier to the girls. :P Not sure if you do that also...

Isn't that just a bloody [Censored] [Censored] [Censored]? [Censored] [Censored] Hell.

I don't know a single person who has a Firearm, so I don't know, maybe just get one anyway? We have a long and healthy tradition of breaking the law here, hell my dad once informed me that he used to grow Marijuana.

You can do both actually.


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11 Dec 2007, 1:23 am

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Deus_ex_machina wrote:
pandabear wrote:
There are certain features of the Australian dialect that you might want to learn before you go, just so that you won't be completely lost.

Sheila = a woman

Cobber = a man

G'day = Hello

To Root = To Shag (as in Austin Powers' vocabulary)

"G'day, Sport! How're they hangin'?" = "Good Morning, Sir. How are you today?"

"Left and Right" = "Fine, thank you."

Barbie = Barbecue

Barbie on the Beach = Barbecue on the Beach

(when invited to an Australian barbie, you would be expected to bring your own meat to cook).

Pommie (or is it Pummie?) = an English person

Sepo = Yank = an American person


You know out of all those words I've only heard "Pommy", and "Barbie" used. I think it's extremely regional, for example in more rural areas it'll probably sound "more Australian", and in the NT it'll probably sound more Aboriginal.


Are there any courses for learning how to speak the Aboriginal languages? Would it be useful to know them?


Not that I'm aware of and it would be a waste of time anyway, the ones that are still around are dying out and many are long gone, and even when they were here there were so many it's absurd.


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