Veganism?

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"It's just that... I'd rather eat Johnson, sir."

Well I'm glad both moralists and meat-eaters could come to an agreement. This seems like a sensible plan.

That was a creepy movie and I still remeber that line. I first saw this when I was only 7.

I'm vegan...and can say that i've seen how animals are treated both on dairy farms and meat farms. It's horrific!
Dairy cows are pumped full of hormones so that they produce excess milk. They produce it to the point at times when their udders are nearly dragging along the ground. Their life expentancy is short. If they give birth while in the factory farm, the babies are not allowed to suckle. The females are immediately pumped full of hormones and the males are killed for meat. They are confined to a tiny space where they don't have enough room to even turn around.

Thats just one example of what can happen to animals on the factory farms these days. I couldn't eat meat or dairy, eggs etc even if I tried after learning [and seeing] where it comes from.

Factory farming is a nasty business. I'm not denying that. My (vegetarian) mother frequently buys what she likes to call "happy meat" from farmers' markets, which has been ethically reared rather than fed through a meat grinder at a factory farm.



Frankly, no. Unless you're somehow going to equate the enslaving of human beings with rearing animals for food.



No, your view that eating meat is somehow immoral in and of itself is what's complete rubbish.

I like eating meat, and I don't like being told that I'm an immoral monster for doing so.

You want to choose not to eat meat, you go right ahead. But don't you dare tell me that I should feel ashamed for not following your line of thinking. My mother is quite happy to accept the fact that the rest of the family (aside from my youngest sister) do not feel the same about eating meat as she does. Seriously now - is that really such a hard thing to do?

No, you have no idea what you're talking about.

My first argument was a common argument against people calling something "unnatural". You didn't rebuke that. The animals are enslaved for food and eaten, which is even worse.

Well, then I can choose to eat you, and its moral in my own view. Don't you dare try to tell me that is immoral and make me ashamed for not following your line of thinking.

I also like beating children, and don't like being told I'm a immoral monster for doing so. Don't you dare judge me.

kalister: bring point of evidence for objective moral values. afterwards, we can discuss whether eating meat or not falls somewhere on that scale.

And you still haven't answered my question: why is it so wrong to live and let live? I don't continually bash vegans and vegetarians for their dietary choices...

Theres nothing wrong with it. Though, on the opposite side of the token, what is wrong with exposing the absurdity we fail to notice on a daily basis?

The way I see it, me not buying products made from animals would result in them being tossed for expiration anyway.

I don't think I could live without cheese and milk. Seriously.

Nothing, really... although there are so many absurdities around us on a daily basis that our heads would explode if we tried to tackle them all.

(by the way, should you really decide to eat me: human flesh apparently tastes like that of the cassowary bird. It's the other white meat )

No, it tastes like pork. Oh um so I heard. Really I read about it in National Geographic... honest. *Goes into hiding*

Yeah, I read that article too

I'm the sort that ate a rabbit on holiday because I found out I could. So, no, I'm not a vegan. I don't like black puddings though - not because of any perceived queasiness over blood - it's only a bit of blood, for heaven's sake! - but because it tastes like crap. No, give me a proper steak any day with real chips. Bloody yoghurt-whipping vegans.

Last edited by Tequila on 11 Mar 2008, 7:44 pm, edited 1 time in total.

ewwwww, that's one meat I can't eat is rabbit.

Sometimes I think vegans think that animals are grateful to them for vegans viewing animals as highly as they do. That somewhere in the congo, a lion is assertively saying, "THANK you. Some people are SUCH barbarians."

(And then he's thinking, "More for me!" )

In response to the last page of posts: Look, I appreciate silliness as much as the next person, but don't try to pass it off as logic or a proper reduction of the absurd because it's annoying.