commonly used phrases that confuse you

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lau
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18 Mar 2008, 3:00 pm

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we call them Rickyisms here in Canada...

Your list seemed to be Malapropisms. I.e they were confused phrases, not confusing phrases.

In fact, not to put too fine a point on it, they were Malapropanisms.


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18 Mar 2008, 3:28 pm

Yes they would be malapropisms, people do like to making a mess of language of comedic effect, if you have ever seen the character or show, you would understand the context of what I was getting at. You take the fun out of life



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18 Mar 2008, 4:51 pm

Once bitten twice shy. Getting bitten doesn't make one shy, it makes one scared or fearful! I like the Danish version much better: Burned child fears fire (Somewhat rough translation)

A bird in the hand is better than two in the bush. I don't want a bird in my hand, why would I want a bird in my hand?

Back in the day. Which day? When was this? Don't hold me in suspence here.


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18 Mar 2008, 5:05 pm

AndersTheAspie wrote:
A bird in the hand is better than two in the bush. I don't want a bird in my hand, why would I want a bird in my hand?


I will be boring and explain that (or try to). If you have caught one bird (to eat!) it is better than nothing and still having to go after the ones still in the bush (or in other words it is better to be happy and content for what you have than not having anything).


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18 Mar 2008, 5:46 pm

Trailer park trash talk topic

Spudnik, I like your Rickyisms. Worst case Ontario! That is a keeper! :D

I have not watched the Boys for a while.

Very malappropriate! :)

Lau, I like the word malapropanism. Very malapropunny! :lol:


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18 Mar 2008, 6:16 pm

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I found that somewhere.

The phrase that confuses me is The exception that proves the rule. W T F?



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18 Mar 2008, 8:20 pm

"Break a Leg"

Well I have since learned a few possible origins of the phrase, but it's still kind of silly since it's self contradictory. It's used to wish an actor good luck, yet breaking one's leg is one of the worst things that can happen on stage. I've encountered it a lot since I've been spotlighting the school plays for the past 3 years (apparently better then anyone has ever done it at our school).



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18 Mar 2008, 8:51 pm

viska wrote:
The phrase that confuses me is The exception that proves the rule. W T F?

That has a rather nice explanation, on Wikipedia, I believe.
In fact, it is almost invariably misunderstood and misused.
The rule is question does NOT have any exception.
The aphorism is intended to mean that examining exceptional cases (i.e. ones that are unusual, boundary cases) proves (in the older sense of "tests", as in the "proof house", which is where armour, swords, etc are tested) the rule (theory).

I.e. in order to check that your rule (model) is a good one, you should try it with all the nastiest cases. Just checking variants of simple cases doesn't hack it.


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18 Mar 2008, 8:56 pm

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"Could care less" and "couldn't care less" meaning essentially the same thing.

I find this one hard to understand. They always seem opposites to me.

"I couldn't care less" must mean I do not care at all, as only then would it be impossible to care to any lesser degree.

"I could care less" means I do care, to some degree, as only in that case would it be possible for me to care a lesser amount.


Technically it should be "I couldn't care less" or " I could care more". "I could care less" bothers me, too.

I used to find, "It was in the last place I looked.", confusing as I tried to figure out why a person would keep looking after they found the item they were looking for :? .



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18 Mar 2008, 8:57 pm

I find most of these phrases more irritating than confusing.



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18 Mar 2008, 8:58 pm

And the Wikipedia explanation doesn't agree with me. Ho hum. It gives the example of "Parking not permitted on Sundays". This is an exception. It "proves" the rule "Parking is permitted on Mondays, Tuesdays, Wednesdays,.... and Saturdays".

I.e. although only the exception is stated, the implication is that there is SOME rule about when you ARE allowed to park.

The exception proves the rule.
The exception proves that there IS a rule.


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18 Mar 2008, 9:03 pm

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I used to find, "It was in the last place I looked.", confusing as I tried to figure out why a person would keep looking after they found the item they were looking for :? .

It took me a while to see what you meant... :)

It should, of course, say "I looked in every possible place, and I had chosen the sequence of places such that the place where it was happened to be the last on my list".

As you point out, just saying "It was in the last place I looked" could mean you found it in the first place you looked.


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18 Mar 2008, 9:05 pm

brainchild

There's just something unsettling about it. Maybe it's because it brings to mind the image of a brain giving birth, or a child with a huge brain and a tiny body.



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18 Mar 2008, 11:43 pm

viska wrote:
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19 Mar 2008, 7:26 am

The_Cucumber wrote:
"Break a Leg"

Well I have since learned a few possible origins of the phrase, but it's still kind of silly since it's self contradictory. It's used to wish an actor good luck, yet breaking one's leg is one of the worst things that can happen on stage. I've encountered it a lot since I've been spotlighting the school plays for the past 3 years (apparently better then anyone has ever done it at our school).


The danish version "Crack and break" is even stranger imo.


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19 Mar 2008, 8:59 am

AndersTheAspie wrote:
The_Cucumber wrote:
"Break a Leg"

Well I have since learned a few possible origins of the phrase, but it's still kind of silly since it's self contradictory. It's used to wish an actor good luck, yet breaking one's leg is one of the worst things that can happen on stage. I've encountered it a lot since I've been spotlighting the school plays for the past 3 years (apparently better then anyone has ever done it at our school).


The danish version "Crack and break" is even stranger imo.


That seems cruel - to crack and break - wishing multiple injuries, although it is better in someways to break a bone completely than just crack it