Page 2009 of 4099 [ 65575 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012 ... 4099  Next

Raleigh
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 7 Jul 2014
Age: 125
Gender: Non-binary
Posts: 34,609
Location: Out of my mind

19 Aug 2017, 4:25 pm

Our culture turns death into a guilt trip.
Anyone who refuses treatment is treated like a criminal.
I know what I'm talking about.


_________________
It's like I'm sleepwalking


Lillikoi
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 22 Jul 2013
Gender: Non-binary
Posts: 11,797
Location: The Mid-West-East-South.

19 Aug 2017, 4:30 pm

^
¿Qué? I am not sure I understand what you're saying.

But I don't think death is a bad thing. :o



Booyakasha
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 6 Oct 2009
Gender: Female
Posts: 13,898

19 Aug 2017, 4:31 pm

Yeah, like we must to choose life, even if it's no longer living.

And chemotherapy is death, I think that's what has killed him in the end. I tried to convince my mom to try some alternatve, but no, she wouldn't hear it. And now he's dead, despite all the "advanced" medicine.



Lillikoi
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 22 Jul 2013
Gender: Non-binary
Posts: 11,797
Location: The Mid-West-East-South.

19 Aug 2017, 4:39 pm

Wha? Booyakasha, I am sorry about your father. Have a big hug from me. :heart:



Raleigh
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 7 Jul 2014
Age: 125
Gender: Non-binary
Posts: 34,609
Location: Out of my mind

19 Aug 2017, 4:42 pm

Cancer is very tricky because it mimics normal cells i.e. the immune system doesn't see it as a threat.
Still, I can't see how effectively killing the immune system with chemo benefits the body as a whole.
I think that's the problem - too much focus on the cancer and not enough on the health and wellbeing of the person overall.
It's like they disregard the person completely sometimes.


_________________
It's like I'm sleepwalking


Froya
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 3 Nov 2015
Age: 46
Gender: Female
Posts: 4,773
Location: Norway

19 Aug 2017, 4:46 pm

Apparently surviving cancer is not a dance on roses so to say. You might struggle with permanent side effects/damage from chemo therapy.



Booyakasha
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 6 Oct 2009
Gender: Female
Posts: 13,898

19 Aug 2017, 4:48 pm

Lillikoi wrote:
Wha? Booyakasha, I am sorry about your father. Have a big hug from me. :heart:


Thanks! Hey, don't worry, it's ok.



Raleigh
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 7 Jul 2014
Age: 125
Gender: Non-binary
Posts: 34,609
Location: Out of my mind

19 Aug 2017, 4:51 pm

^^ yes.
Two of my relatives got leukaemia from chemo, because one of the side effects of cancer treatment is cancer.


_________________
It's like I'm sleepwalking


Froya
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 3 Nov 2015
Age: 46
Gender: Female
Posts: 4,773
Location: Norway

19 Aug 2017, 4:52 pm

Raleigh wrote:
I wonder if there will ever truly be an end to suffering?
I wonder if that is the simplicity of the promise, that death ends all?

Not as long as we are alive. I see death as a relieve, although I will probably fear it when I'm facing it. Like most people do. It's easy to say you don't fear death, when your not facing it.



Booyakasha
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 6 Oct 2009
Gender: Female
Posts: 13,898

19 Aug 2017, 4:53 pm

Raleigh wrote:
Cancer is very tricky because it mimics normal cells i.e. the immune system doesn't see it as a threat.
Still, I can't see how effectively killing the immune system with chemo benefits the body as a whole.
I think that's the problem - too much focus on the cancer and not enough on the health and wellbeing of the person overall.
It's like they disregard the person completely sometimes.


Exactly, I read it destroys brain cells, and vital organs. I mean what was the point of all that, if he wasn't even allowed to get out, since there might be some germs in the air?

Cancer was here before, and I bet those ancient people lived longer, even with cancer.



Froya
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 3 Nov 2015
Age: 46
Gender: Female
Posts: 4,773
Location: Norway

19 Aug 2017, 4:55 pm

Raleigh wrote:
^^ yes.
Two of my relatives got leukaemia from chemo, because one of the side effects of cancer treatment is cancer.

Yes, it's pretty tragic. Most people will do anything to survive. It's amaizing. I hope I'm different, but probably not :P



Raleigh
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 7 Jul 2014
Age: 125
Gender: Non-binary
Posts: 34,609
Location: Out of my mind

19 Aug 2017, 5:03 pm

Booyakasha wrote:
Raleigh wrote:
Cancer is very tricky because it mimics normal cells i.e. the immune system doesn't see it as a threat.
Still, I can't see how effectively killing the immune system with chemo benefits the body as a whole.
I think that's the problem - too much focus on the cancer and not enough on the health and wellbeing of the person overall.
It's like they disregard the person completely sometimes.


Exactly, I read it destroys brain cells, and vital organs. I mean what was the point of all that, if he wasn't even allowed to get out, since there might be some germs in the air?

Cancer was here before, and I bet those ancient people lived longer, even with cancer.

I think looking at the cancer as an enemy to be nuked is the wrong approach.
That's non-acceptance, and it turns you against yourself and makes you untrusting of your own physiology.
Those cells are not invaders, they were always there, and they're part of you.
They indicate that something is unbalanced within, maybe not even in your physical body, but maybe within your mind and beliefs.


_________________
It's like I'm sleepwalking


Froya
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 3 Nov 2015
Age: 46
Gender: Female
Posts: 4,773
Location: Norway

19 Aug 2017, 5:04 pm

Booyakasha wrote:
Cancer was here before, and I bet those ancient people lived longer, even with cancer.

At least it's better to die from cancer today then it was some years ago. A nurse once told me that in most cases today the painrelief is so good, that you don't experience much pain :)



Raleigh
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 7 Jul 2014
Age: 125
Gender: Non-binary
Posts: 34,609
Location: Out of my mind

19 Aug 2017, 5:15 pm

My brother is a nurse.
He would concur.
He also told me that resuscitation only has like a 3% success rate, despite what you see in the medical dramas.


_________________
It's like I'm sleepwalking


Froya
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 3 Nov 2015
Age: 46
Gender: Female
Posts: 4,773
Location: Norway

19 Aug 2017, 5:21 pm

^Really! I didn't know that. I actually thought it was like it is in the medical dramas.



Froya
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 3 Nov 2015
Age: 46
Gender: Female
Posts: 4,773
Location: Norway

19 Aug 2017, 5:33 pm

How's the painting going Raleigh?

I'm finished with my painting "project". I'm ok with the result. I went with three colors that has a similar amount of color, black and white in it. Green for the living room/bedroom, grey in the kitchen, and beige in the hallway.