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22 Dec 2017, 4:49 pm

^ That's wonderful, about your sister.
From what I've seen doctors tend to give the statistics when diagnosing and don't necessarily take into account the individual's age/condition/extreme stubbornness.


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22 Dec 2017, 5:03 pm

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^ That's wonderful, about your sister.
From what I've seen doctors tend to give the statistics when diagnosing and don't necessarily take into account the individual's age/condition/extreme stubbornness.


Exactly Raleigh.
Another friend of mine is doing well with her treatment - she is healthy and doing all the right things.
Just as you are doing all the right things and keeping yourself at a healthy level to deal with this.
Some people have no idea - how could they if they have never experienced such a thing?
You are doing bloody well and we all think you are fantastic :heart:



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22 Dec 2017, 5:04 pm

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Hello, everyone.

I have a few "hypothetical" questions of a moral/ethical nature.

1) If you have been given a certain time to live, but you have exceeded that prognosis by, say, almost 5 months, does that mean you are no longer "terminal"? Difficult to answer but, my grandmother would definitely fall into this category,for she was diagnosed with conjestive heart failure though, she lives for another 9 years after that diagnosise

2) if you were told you would die and you then told others you would die, but you haven't died, does that mean that you have lied about your prognosis?No, it means that you defied the odds and have proven others wrong.

3) would it be a good idea to show evidence of your diagnosis in the above scenarios to people who do not believe you or should you not "feed the trolls"?It's not feeding the trolls rather providing evidence of your determination & spirit.

Thank you in anticipation.


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22 Dec 2017, 5:47 pm

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1 No
2 No
3 No - f**k em


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22 Dec 2017, 6:14 pm

Temeraire wrote:
Raleigh wrote:
^ That's wonderful, about your sister.
From what I've seen doctors tend to give the statistics when diagnosing and don't necessarily take into account the individual's age/condition/extreme stubbornness.


Exactly Raleigh.
Another friend of mine is doing well with her treatment - she is healthy and doing all the right things.
Just as you are doing all the right things and keeping yourself at a healthy level to deal with this.
Some people have no idea - how could they if they have never experienced such a thing?
You are doing bloody well and we all think you are fantastic :heart:

Thank you for saying that.
I have worked hard.
But still it doesn't seem real to me, so I can understand why others question it.
Even I thought if you were terminal you would be bedridden and attached to tubes, not actively participating in life, healthy and reasonably happy.
This is not how I imagined it at all.


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22 Dec 2017, 6:19 pm

I'm glad your like an old monkey whom does not let some stupid snake pester you,an analogy from an old kungfu movie,Raleigh ^


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22 Dec 2017, 6:20 pm

I do kind of feel like a fake.
Like somehow I should be sicker.
To please people who object.
Not sure what's with that?
I've always been a people pleaser.
f****d up, or what? :lol:

Why should I feel guilty for living?


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22 Dec 2017, 6:22 pm

I think I may go and rest now.
Thanks for your replies, everyone.


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22 Dec 2017, 6:31 pm

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I think I may go and rest now.
Thanks for your replies, everyone.



Your sincerely welcome and your no Fake!! !


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22 Dec 2017, 6:37 pm

Night night Raleigh.
Sleep well. :heart:



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22 Dec 2017, 6:38 pm

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^thanks.

That was kind of what I was thinking but I don't know if I know anything anymore.


I know you didn't really need anyone to give you the answers but sometimes people can be so insensitive it really does a f*****g number on you and you begin to doubt everything. Stay strong , stay positive and don't feed the trolls even when they dangle tasty little morsels for you to bite on.


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22 Dec 2017, 7:07 pm

Raleigh wrote:
Hello, everyone.

I have a few "hypothetical" questions of a moral/ethical nature.

1) If you have been given a certain time to live, but you have exceeded that prognosis by, say, almost 5 months, does that mean you are no longer "terminal"?

2) if you were told you would die and you then told others you would die, but you haven't died, does that mean that you have lied about your prognosis?

3) would it be a good idea to show evidence of your diagnosis in the above scenarios to people who do not believe you or should you not "feed the trolls"?

Thank you in anticipation.


1. I think that depends on your condition, whether you're getting better, staying the same, or getting worse. Probably only the first one might mean you're no longer terminal.

2. Absolutely not - you told the truth about your prognosis even if you beat the odds.

3. I'm not sure about that. My inclination would be to agree with others here and say "f*** them."

I totally understand feeling like a fake for not appearing to be sicker. I feel that way about my disabilities - since they aren't physical or visibly obvious to others, people tend not to take me seriously about them, and I start feeling guilty and wondering if maybe they're right and I'm just weak. But you're not faking or lying when you tell people you have a terminal illness - you're just telling them what your doctors have told you. There are plenty of terminal conditions where someone doesn't look all that sick right up until the very end - you're far from the only person who's been told their condition is terminal who can still live a pretty much normal life in the meantime. Please don't let it keep you from enjoying the time you have left while you're able.


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22 Dec 2017, 7:40 pm

^Well said, and hugs for Raleigh. :cheers: :heart:


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22 Dec 2017, 7:44 pm

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22 Dec 2017, 7:46 pm

Hello. How's it going?


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22 Dec 2017, 7:47 pm

I'm good.