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12 Apr 2024, 3:52 pm

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No worries BB. We are always here for you.

yes, we certainly are!...and congrats on reaching 15000 posts blitzkrieg!! !

Oh wow, ha.

I didn't even realize that had happened. I sometimes tune out of my post count. :oops:

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12 Apr 2024, 4:40 pm

I wonder if I turn my mattress over it'll make a difference

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12 Apr 2024, 4:52 pm

It's the last thing you wanna do when you're in bed already

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12 Apr 2024, 4:54 pm

I know from experience that a new mattress can change your life. :lol:

Flipping the mattress can help sometimes.

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12 Apr 2024, 5:07 pm

I'm toying with the idea of sleeping on the floor

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12 Apr 2024, 5:14 pm

I've yet to figure my damn gut issues, on or off pill.

Physical gut issues. As in, it does react when I ate something.

Since I've never able to solve the latter...
I'm experimenting again.

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12 Apr 2024, 5:52 pm

How do they manage to make the gelatin in a Hunt's Snack Pack stay hard if the snacks are shelf stable?

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12 Apr 2024, 9:01 pm

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How do they manage to make the gelatin in a Hunt's Snack Pack stay hard if the snacks are shelf stable?

Because it's not gelatin; Snack Packs use carrageenan and carob bean gum as their thickening agents instead of gelatin and those jelling agents have higher melting points.

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12 Apr 2024, 9:05 pm

I won't even feed my cats food thickened with carrageenan. It's a known carcinogen for animals and it can cause IBS in humans.

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12 Apr 2024, 9:26 pm

Poligeenan is also known as degraded carrageenan and is a known carcinogen.

Carrageenan is still generally recognized as safe, although there is debate over whether or not exposure to the digestive tract can result in degraded carrageenan being formed.

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Findings of a review from 2017 indicated that even non-degraded carrageenan can cause inflammation and bowel disorders, suggesting that this substance may contribute to ulcers and IBD.

However, authors of a 2018 review concluded that there is not enough evidence to draw conclusions about the exact health effects of carrageenan.

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As of 2018, carrageenan was deemed non-toxic under certain consumption levels (75 mg/kg bw per day), although further research was recommended, mainly focused on the fate of carrageenan during and after digestion, and on any subsequent metabolites.

It should be noted that generally recognized as safe is a jargon term and may not always be literally true.

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12 Apr 2024, 9:29 pm

I think carageenan would likely be safe for most people in small quantities. But if a person already has some bowel issues, it might make them worse or tip them closer to bowel dysfunction in the first place.

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12 Apr 2024, 9:30 pm

funeralxempire wrote:

It should be noted that generally recognized as safe is a jargon term and may not always be literally true.

Agreed.

It can cause cancer for cats but big brands like Purina still use it in some of their wet food flavours.
The labels are so hard to read I need a magnifying glass.

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12 Apr 2024, 9:31 pm

IsabellaLinton wrote:

funeralxempire wrote:

It should be noted that generally recognized as safe is a jargon term and may not always be literally true.

Agreed.

It can cause cancer for cats but big brands like Purina still use it in some of their wet food flavours.
The labels are so hard to read I need a magnifying glass.

I own a magnifying glass, but I don't use it.

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12 Apr 2024, 9:39 pm

IsabellaLinton wrote:

funeralxempire wrote:

It should be noted that generally recognized as safe is a jargon term and may not always be literally true.

Agreed.

It can cause cancer for cats but big brands like Purina still use it in some of their wet food flavours.
The labels are so hard to read I need a magnifying glass.

I'm surprised they haven't switched to Agar, guar gum or xanthan gum.

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12 Apr 2024, 9:40 pm

They do use guar gum or whatever it's called, but that's not really great either.
It's better though, if I had to pick.
Some of them have both.

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12 Apr 2024, 9:43 pm

IsabellaLinton wrote:

They do use guar gum or whatever it's called, but that's not really great either.
It's better though, if I had to pick.
Some of them have both.

Using multiple thickening agents seems to be common when reading through ingredient lists, perhaps it allows a smaller quantity to be used.

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