Joined: 27 Oct 2014 Age: 41 Gender: Non-binary Posts: 34,462 Location: Right over your left shoulder
12 Apr 2025, 9:27 pm
Participant626 wrote:
^ Why the different power limiting methods? Couldn't they just make the engines smaller? Makes no sense to me to make powerful engines to then limit them.
I'm not certain, I know as a general rule a larger engine in a lower state of tuning should be more reliable than a smaller engine in a higher state of tuning, but it's not like multiple engine failures are guaranteed in a race anymore, so they don't seem to be approaching the limit where engine failures might become a serious problem.
Back in the day they had to increase the Grand American series displacement from 5000 ccs to 6000 ccs for reliability, but that was also during the late 60s. I'm pretty sure they could get away with a 5 litre engine nowadays, if they wanted.
If engine failures were more common it would be a safety issue because they tend to dump oil when they let go, but since it's not, I don't believe safety is the limiting factor.
The main reason they want to limit power is to reduce the likelihood of cars going airborne, like if the cars went >215 the roof flaps they use wouldn't be as effective and we'd see more blowovers. Fans might be at greater risk too, since the catch fence might not be adequate anymore.
If it's not due to reliability, another reason why the maximum displacement is 358 ci might be because that's a standard size adopted by lower tiers of stock cars, modifieds, sprint cars, etc.
They also are very strict about tech, like for example they don't allow multivalve or overhead cam engines, even though most cars on the road use multivalve, DOHC engines these days. Toyota had to develop a suitable pushrod engine to compete in NASCAR, rather than use an existing engine. This reduces the chance of manufacturers going crazy and driving up costs, but that hasn't seemed likely to happen in decades so it no longer seems like a realistic concern.
All-in-all, I'm not certain why they do things the way they do them, although I know restrictor plates have become the norm in a lot of other racing too now.
That's the crash that led to restrictor plates being used on superspeedways.
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Joined: 27 Feb 2025 Gender: Male Posts: 758 Location: USA
13 Apr 2025, 7:47 am
Lost_dragon wrote:
I'm feeling kind of down in the dumps. How can I break out of this rut? Maybe I should get some air.
I've heard movement is helpful, so maybe even just a walk outside could help.
What is on my mind right now is me realizing that a couple I knew would make fun of me all the time for things that I did that were considered autistic while they were pretending to be helpful and inclusive.
Lesson learned: if you have friends that seem much more caring, attentive, and helpful when others are around than when you are alone with them, it's probably a good idea to avoid being alone with them.