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14 May 2025, 11:13 am

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I hate any song that sounds like the common playground taunt. Except for "We're Going To Spain" by The Krankies because, well, they're kranky. :lol:


I lived in Torquay for a bit and the Krankies lived there too. You'd see them wandering about town like it was perfectly normal.


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14 May 2025, 11:30 am

I never quite understood Morris dancing


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14 May 2025, 11:38 am

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I lived in Torquay for a bit and the Krankies lived there too. You'd see them wandering about town like it was perfectly normal.


Did you ever see Basil Fawlty?


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14 May 2025, 12:04 pm

^No. But the Gleneagles Hotel which is what it was based on was just around the corner. It didn't look anything like Fawlty Towers though. It's been knocked down now.


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14 May 2025, 12:10 pm

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I never quite understood Morris dancing

Me neither. I saw a picture on Facebook of some nude Morris dancers, and there was a comment "somebody wants a fiddle." I couldn't stop laughing. The dancers were only puppets and they weren't very lifelike, so it wasn't really rude.

I like watching dancing puppets (especially if they're dressed), but dancing people usually bore me.



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14 May 2025, 12:14 pm

We did maypole at my primary school


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14 May 2025, 1:25 pm

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It seems many people with intellectual disabilities can be more socially immature or inept than many (high-functioning) autistic people. Some autistics refer to people without autism but with an intellectual disability as neurotypical but I don't feel they are.

Today I met my partner's friend's daughter, a 24-year-old with a lifelong intellectual disability caused by Fecal Alcohol Syndrome, but isn't autistic. She lives with her dad, who looks after her because she is unable to function alone.
She showed me her phone and excitedly said that she has loads of friends on it, then showed me her contact list, which only had 4 people she considered friends; her dad, the lady who ran the MENCAP group, her social worker, and a girl with Downs syndrome who also attended the MENCAP group. But to her that was "loads of friends" and she was very proud.
She also has a strong attachment to toys and takes one of her dolls out with her. And she apparently really fancies this young man who lives next door and is the same age, and told me she wants to go out with him but doesn't know how to talk to him - even though he apparently is friendly to her but otherwise isn't interested, as he already has a girlfriend (I assume him and his girlfriend are neurotypicals).

So, yeah, people with intellectual disabilities struggle too and can be clueless of social norms, naive even. Also she doesn't like balloons because, as she said, "they make a loud noise". So she told me (in her little childlike voice) that she'll invite me to her next birthday party but that I mustn't bring any balloons. I promised I won't.

I actually felt neurotypical compared to her, me sitting with my partner chatting about normal adult subjects with her dad, such as work and money and shopping.
I did find the girl sweet though, and I will come to her birthday party, even though she wants to play 'musical chairs' and other childhood party games. But if me coming too will make her happy then that's nice. :)

Before anyone says "oh but the difference between intellectual disability and autism is that people with intellectual disabilities are still social", that isn't strictly true because it's implying that autistic people typically aren't social. I'm sociable for an Aspie, while I can be shy I still have a socially functioning mind that naturally makes me desire to be accepted and have friends, just as much (if not more) than this girl with a learning disability. In fact I seem to function more in the neurotypical world than she does.

They're called allistic; which is what not-autism is whether or not a person is neurotypical or neurodivergent.

All neurotypicals are allistic, but not all allistics are neurotypical.

Your partner's friend's daughter is an allistic neurodivergent. One is not merely a neurotypical for merely not being autistic.


I've been on other autism sites and some still think that 99% of the world's population are NT.
But the way I see it, I think you need some degree of intelligence to have NT social skills, and if you have an intellectual disability then your social skills are going to be affected in some way. Even dyslexic people can have affected communication skills. There's a guy at work with dyslexia. Aside from having difficulty with spelling and reading, he also displays some communication difficulties, like with finding the right words in the moment and not explaining things properly. Actually I have these difficulties too, although I don't have dyslexia because I'm excellent at spelling.
I'm good with writing out posts and stuff but I still struggle with using a wider vocabulary or memorising 'big words' that I (and many people) don't often use in day-to-day communication but are often used by intelligent people online, like on autism sites.


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14 May 2025, 1:28 pm

Yeah I say words wrong all the time
It's like talking dyslexia or something


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14 May 2025, 2:07 pm

Anybody who writes at your speed is going to make mistakes though. It's like greased lightning.



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14 May 2025, 2:08 pm

What you talking about
My dad always says slow down slow down
You sound like him


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14 May 2025, 2:12 pm

He's right, you're like Anne Of Green Gables.



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14 May 2025, 2:14 pm

Who the heck is that :lol:

Is it someone from the olden days


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14 May 2025, 2:36 pm

It was a book, don't know when they wrote it but it was set in the past. They did a film or TV series of it. She was a young-ish kid who was always nattering away to everybody, which kind of drained them, but they couldn't help liking her for blowing away the cobwebs and being nice with it.



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14 May 2025, 2:40 pm

Oh right
I'll try not to drain you any more :lol:


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14 May 2025, 2:44 pm

I don't drain easily, I could go on all day if I didn't have rehearsals and chores.



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14 May 2025, 2:45 pm

Have you got a show tonight


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