Would you rather be 5 ft 3 or 6 ft 8? (men only)

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The death of common sense is a passing that will not be mourned loudly in our society. It will be cheered publicly by many because it's the last barrier to the concept of group think, which is what those who don't have a lick of common sense themselves think it will take to destroy prejudice. Before common sense is even cold and decently buried, every opinion about others that isn't universally the same, and positive, will be smacked with a label of "ist", "ism" or "phobia" and those who utter the wrong opinion, idea, thought or word will be metaphorically publicly strung up for the masses to decry and throw rotten food at. Only organic vegan fat free food will the thrown though, because that's all there is left.

Quote: "I'm 50 years old and if I were single I wouldn't date anyone younger than 40. Or older than 60. Does that make me an ageist?" Yep.

So? Are you going to file suit against her for discrimination on the basis of age?

I'm in my late 50s. If I was single, I would not date anyone in their 70s or younger than 40.

Why? Lack of common interests, mainly. Different levels of mobility, stamina, and health, for another. There is simply little or no likelihood of finding common ground on any given subject; and even if there were, one of us would soon grow impatient with the other for being slow or boring.

So I'm ageist. Sue me.

My subconscious says don't have sex with somebody near your childs age. Don't have sex with somebody near your parent's age. That's a pretty normal subconscious thing.

When somebody is near the age of one of my kids, I feel motherly toward them. I can still think they are devistatingly attractive, I can still think they are a douchebag, I can still think they are very intelligent and trust them to do the job I'm paying them to do, but underlying all that, is a motherly feeling toward them. Not that I care what college they go to and worry if they are eating, it's more along the lines of seeing them in the same light that I would if they were my kid or my kids friends. Seeing them in the same light their parent may see them but without the parental love. While I know they are grown and don't see or treat them as children, in my mind they are in the same catagory as "the kids" which includes my kids and their friends. Dating somebody in that age group would conflict with the motherly vibe that I feel. That's why I wouldn't ever be in a romantic relationship with somebody that much younger than me. If I could have possibly given birth to them, I don't want them in my bed. It's that simple. Motherly vibes aren't very conducive to romance. So I'm an ageist now because I get the mother dynamic thing in my mind when I meet someone who is my kids age?

As for someone older than men, thats from way back in the day when I was a young, hot thing and dirty old men wanted to get into my pants. That kind of thing keeps going on with women until they hit their 30's, old guys hitting on them for sex. Yes, some can look past that and get to know the guy and some find out that the guy isn't hitting on them for sex, but it's just a generally creepy vibe for me. Not being a young, hot thing anymore, and knowing that somebody isn't hitting on me for sex doesn't change the creepiness factor for me now. Especially if they are near the age that my mother would be. It's probably an offshoot of the way I think it's gross to sleep with someone who I could have given birth to. I wonder why he's not feeling that it's gross that I'm young enough to be his daughter, but I also know that to men, having the woman be younger isn't an issue. To me, it is.

I don't judge others for it. I don't think it's gross when other people hook up with folks much younger or older than them. My best friend is a cougar and usually when the guy turns 30, he's out. I'm all for that for her, and I know I'm wierd that I'm not like that cause most women wouldn't mind a younger man having the hots for them. I however, would. I've been hit on by friends of her boyfriends. I always just said something like "Honey, no". I'm married, but still, even if I was interested in something on the side, my mind just doesn't go there with guys that age.

No, I've never been sexually abused or molested, I have no childhood trauma relating to sex and older people or anything like that. It's nothing that's been caused by outside influence. It's just how I feel. As my own kids got older, I'd still think that the young, hot men on tv and in the movies were hot as hell, but their age was just a turnoff for me.

It's a turnoff for me when I could have given birth to a guy or he could be my father. That's just me. It's not ageism. I'm turned on by guys in my age group. That's all. It's nothing discriminatory about me.

What do you think about people who won't date those of other races? Are they necessarily racist?

I'm pretty sure that this post has the most logical contradictions that I've ever seen in one post here before.

My own "feeling" is that our conscious minds should use more reliable logic to filter what surfaces from our subconscious minds. I don't think it's the best idea to let the subconscious call the shots so much.

Otherwise, I think some of the things you describe here would have been called "complexes" in the earlier days of psychology.

I also think that you are likely unaware of the extent that your social environment has determined what all has collected in your subconscious.

You may want to think further about what the definition of discrimination is. It is a type of pattern comparison logic that is critical to the thinking process.

edit=> No matter how you word it, it's still called "othering" and uses the logical process of discrimination to varying degrees of social acceptability.

As I said before, it's not like you can't do it. It's just contradictory to do and say you don't, or say that it's based on an obscure personal feeling, as if that could be completely randomly based.

That's exactly what I would do, thank you for reading and using common sense.

When some people look for offense and believe they find it, they will go after it and do everything in their power to force it into that category. They will perceive, or at least paint, the person who they believe is offensive and a horrible whateverist as someone who is so regimented and so unwavering in their opinion as to personally devalue the group that the original defender and activist wants to stand up for and use to vilify the alleged bigot. The problem with this tactic is that most times the person meant no offense, doesn't discriminate, doesn't see a reason to discriminate and probably in fact never thinks about whatever issue it is that our freedom fighter has accused them of. They them usually try and twist words to say that the person really meant something else and it's either all a front or the person is so deluded by society that they can't even see how wrong they really are, by whatever actually nonoffensive thing it was they did or said in the beginning.

Ageist - "I don't think couples with big age differences should date, because it's creepy"
Not ageist - "I don't want to date somebody much older or much younger than I am because it feels creepy to me to do that"
Ageist - "I don't want to hang out with people from other age groups, they don't know anything. They are either children or old codgers"
Not ageist - "I hang out with anybody who I get along with, lots of people are fun, I just don't want to date outside my age group"
Ageist - "Yes, I'm at the emergency room with simple constipation but I want to see the 45 year old attending doctor and not the 25 year old resident. That resident is too young to know anything, that doctor isn't"
Not ageist - "I'm here at the emergency room with a complicated medical case that I've been seen for for a while. It's difficult to treat. I'd like to see the attending doctor and not the resident because I'd be more comfortable with a doctor with more experience treating me"
Ageist - "Yeah, he asked me out and he's hot but he's 5 years older than my son and he's just gonna slack off and do nothing. That generation for the most part is lazy"
No ageist - "He asked me out, he's only 5 years older than my son. He's a great catch for somebody but I feel more like I'm his mother's friend than his girlfriend!"
Ageist - "He's my fathers age for crying out loud! You know how men that age are! I'm not going to sit there and listen to him talk politics and bring him scotch. Forget it, cause I know what I'd be in for!"
Not ageist - "He's a nice guy and I like him but I'm just not sexually attracted to him because he's close to the age my mother would have been. It just feels creepy to me."

In all of those instances, I would have said and felt the second example. No matter what our crier for social justice in the dating scene of older middle aged women thinks or says.

The death of common sense is a passing that will not be mourned loudly in our society. It will be cheered publicly by many because it's the last barrier to the concept of group think, which is what those who don't have a lick of common sense themselves think it will take to destroy prejudice. Before common sense is even cold and decently buried, every opinion about others that isn't universally the same, and positive, will be smacked with a label of "ist", "ism" or "phobia" and those who utter the wrong opinion, idea, thought or word will be metaphorically publicly strung up for the masses to decry and throw rotten food at. Only organic vegan fat free food will the thrown though, because that's all there is left.

. . .You shouldn't be voting if you're a woman. I specifically asked men only.

I'd rather be a Pegasus.

And I'm a woman.

This entire thread is invalid.