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10 May 2007, 8:47 am

Homosexuality is not a choice, and hardwired into a person's brain. Just like my attraction to plump females reviled by popular culture. I don't find skinny girls physically sexually attractive, and it isn't my choice. I still find them cute though.

Homosexuality is a natural solution to overpopulation possibly. Still, if it's hardwired into the mind... whether or not it was a choice in the first place, it can't be changed when it's hardwired either naturally, or developed.

Religion is a mental refuge created by humanity. Religious zealots are the blindest and most delusional of the lot. Religion is stupid, but funny <.<


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10 May 2007, 8:50 am

People worrying about useless things that don’t concern them
People who force you to live how they want you to live
People who think they know you better than you know yourself

These three are usually mutually inclusive. :roll:



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10 May 2007, 8:54 am

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Homosexuality is not a choice, and hardwired into a person's brain. Just like my attraction to plump females reviled by popular culture. I don't find skinny girls physically sexually attractive, and it isn't my choice. I still find them cute though.

Homosexuality is a natural solution to overpopulation possibly. Still, if it's hardwired into the mind... whether or not it was a choice in the first place, it can't be changed when it's hardwired either naturally, or developed.

Religion is a mental refuge created by humanity. Religious zealots are the blindest and most delusional of the lot. Religion is stupid, but funny <.<


My mom has suspected since my brother was 3 years old that he was gay (he is). Does anyone really think that he made the decision at 3 to be gay? He wouldn't have even known what it was!

He was raised Christian, but he's completely turned against Christianity and has nothing but scorn for Christians now due to being so hurt by the opinions of the religious right. I don't even consider those people to be Christians because of the intolerance they preach, but because of them, my brother has been made to feel awful about who he is, and there are so many places in the country he couldn't safely live because of other people's ignorance.



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10 May 2007, 9:01 am

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My mom has suspected since my brother was 3 years old that he was gay (he is). Does anyone really think that he made the decision at 3 to be gay? He wouldn't have even known what it was!

He was raised Christian, but he's completely turned against Christianity and has nothing but scorn for Christians now due to being so hurt by the opinions of the religious right. I don't even consider those people to be Christians because of the intolerance they preach, but because of them, my brother has been made to feel awful about who he is, and there are so many places in the country he couldn't safely live because of other people's ignorance.

I know some gay people who were raised Christian. They had a really hard time because of it and ended up depressed. I'm glad I wasn't brought up to be religious. That would have just added to my already confusing/pain in the ass life.



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10 May 2007, 9:02 am

LostInSpace wrote:
Anubis wrote:
Homosexuality is not a choice, and hardwired into a person's brain. Just like my attraction to plump females reviled by popular culture. I don't find skinny girls physically sexually attractive, and it isn't my choice. I still find them cute though.

Homosexuality is a natural solution to overpopulation possibly. Still, if it's hardwired into the mind... whether or not it was a choice in the first place, it can't be changed when it's hardwired either naturally, or developed.

Religion is a mental refuge created by humanity. Religious zealots are the blindest and most delusional of the lot. Religion is stupid, but funny <.<


My mom has suspected since my brother was 3 years old that he was gay (he is). Does anyone really think that he made the decision at 3 to be gay? He wouldn't have even known what it was!

He was raised Christian, but he's completely turned against Christianity and has nothing but scorn for Christians now due to being so hurt by the opinions of the religious right. I don't even consider those people to be Christians because of the intolerance they preach, but because of them, my brother has been made to feel awful about who he is, and there are so many places in the country he couldn't safely live because of other people's ignorance.


Oh please. Gay at 3? No longer Christian? It's more likely he's using his brain and not following blindly what others tell him.
And I agree, not many places are safe to live. But that has nothing to do with beliefs or being gay. How old is your brother?


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10 May 2007, 9:09 am

Stupid people
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Nosy people who ask all kinds of prying questions and look around the house to see what you have. These people always have a shifty look as though they are about to steal something.
People who destroy or fail to return something you've loaned them



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10 May 2007, 9:12 am

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Stupid people
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Nosy people who ask all kinds of prying questions and look around the house to see what you have. These people always have a shifty look as though they are about to steal something.
People who destroy or fail to return something you've loaned them


Are you speaking of Republicans?


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10 May 2007, 9:13 am

Pepople who sit in my bloody seat in lectures p*ss me off... :evil:



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10 May 2007, 9:17 am

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b]9CatMom wrote:[/b]
Stupid people
Drunk people
Nosy people who ask all kinds of prying questions and look around the house to see what you have. These people always have a shifty look as though they are about to steal something.
People who destroy or fail to return something you've loaned them


Whiteskunk:
Are you speaking of Republicans?


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10 May 2007, 9:23 am

People who fail to see both sides of an argument

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Pepople who sit in my bloody seat in lectures p*ss me off... :evil:


Anecdote time: at the mental hostel during the first day, during lunch I accidentally sat in the seat of a person who was quite...ah, possessive of said seat. I received the most venomous stare I've ever witnessed.... Supposedly, the rumour had it I got off really easy. :? I think I looked pretty venomous at the time anyway.... She got along fine with me in the end ‘cause she didn’t talk like me...I started taking my food back to my room from then on. :?



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10 May 2007, 9:24 am

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Oh please. Gay at 3?


What makes you think this isn't possible? You should see some of the home videos we have.

Also, my mom never told him that. She told me when I was older, and when he was 3 she had spoken to several other people about it. So it's not like he knew that she felt that way and was living up to her expectations.


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No longer Christian? It's more likely he's using his brain and not following blindly what others tell him.


How would you feel if you had blond hair, and a very vocal Christian population was going around saying that people with blond hair were all sinners, and that they could only be accepted as Christians and go to heaven if they dyed their hair brown? What if having blond hair was an important part of your identity?

Also, I'm not sure how he is following what others tell him. He's still in the closet outside of our family. He's really struggling with his identity right now, and he suffers from real self-esteem problems. None of his friends are gay either, so it's not like he's getting influenced by people around him.

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And I agree, not many places are safe to live. But that has nothing to do with beliefs or being gay. How old is your brother?


He's 21. When I was talking about safety, I meant both physically and emotionally. Physically, there are many instances of hate crimes carried out against gays by intolerant people. Emotionally, how healthy would it be for him to live in a portion of the country where he was surrounded by people who believed that to be who he is is to go against the will of God? He'd either be openly gay and be a pariah, or have to hide away who he really is and live a lie. How healthy is that? How happy would he be?



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10 May 2007, 9:28 am

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10 May 2007, 9:33 am

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Anubis wrote:
Homosexuality is not a choice, and hardwired into a person's brain. Just like my attraction to plump females reviled by popular culture. I don't find skinny girls physically sexually attractive, and it isn't my choice. I still find them cute though.

Homosexuality is a natural solution to overpopulation possibly. Still, if it's hardwired into the mind... whether or not it was a choice in the first place, it can't be changed when it's hardwired either naturally, or developed.

Religion is a mental refuge created by humanity. Religious zealots are the blindest and most delusional of the lot. Religion is stupid, but funny <.<


My mom has suspected since my brother was 3 years old that he was gay (he is). Does anyone really think that he made the decision at 3 to be gay? He wouldn't have even known what it was!

He was raised Christian, but he's completely turned against Christianity and has nothing but scorn for Christians now due to being so hurt by the opinions of the religious right. I don't even consider those people to be Christians because of the intolerance they preach, but because of them, my brother has been made to feel awful about who he is, and there are so many places in the country he couldn't safely live because of other people's ignorance.


Exactly, point proven...


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10 May 2007, 9:48 am

LostInSpace wrote:
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Oh please. Gay at 3?


What makes you think this isn't possible? You should see some of the home videos we have.

Also, my mom never told him that. She told me when I was older, and when he was 3 she had spoken to several other people about it. So it's not like he knew that she felt that way and was living up to her expectations.


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No longer Christian? It's more likely he's using his brain and not following blindly what others tell him.


I'm not saying it isn't possible. Just that curiousity might be considered.

How would you feel if you had blond hair, and a very vocal Christian population was going around saying that people with blond hair were all sinners, and that they could only be accepted as Christians and go to heaven if they dyed their hair brown? What if having blond hair was an important part of your identity?

Well during childhood, I was made fun of for being half Russian/Jewish and half Irish by other students and by teachers (1960's).
And since 1986 (when I became wiccan) being viewed as a Devil worshipper by Christian zealots, having the tires on my car slashed, hateful/prejudice literature stuck to my apartment door by the local Jehovah's Witness church members. I can kind of relate to your brothers plight.

Also, I'm not sure how he is following what others tell him. He's still in the closet outside of our family. He's really struggling with his identity right now, and he suffers from real self-esteem problems. None of his friends are gay either, so it's not like he's getting influenced by people around him.

This area I have no room to speak being hetero. And wouldn't feel right by saying anything about coming out or seeking support groups. It's sad that people can't simply accept other for who they are.

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And I agree, not many places are safe to live. But that has nothing to do with beliefs or being gay. How old is your brother?


He's 21. When I was talking about safety, I meant both physically and emotionally. Physically, there are many instances of hate crimes carried out against gays by intolerant people. Emotionally, how healthy would it be for him to live in a portion of the country where he was surrounded by people who believed that to be who he is is to go against the will of God? He'd either be openly gay and be a pariah, or have to hide away who he really is and live a lie. How healthy is that? How happy would he be?


That is a constant in most communities. Even in the Oregon town of Eugene which is supposed to be liberal/tolerant.
I apologize. Maybe I shouldn't express opinions anymore.


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10 May 2007, 9:52 am

things that p*** me off:

    People that insult my intelligence
    People that think I'm immature
    People that betray me (and I had my fair share of that in recent months)
    Bullies (they really tick me off because they like to pick on those different than them)
    Chatroom operators/IRC server operators that do not do their job correctly (I know 2 people that fit that)
    When the electricity distribution company cuts the power off for maintenence and sends the letter saying they are going to do it 2 days later :evil:
    Social workers (they interfere too much for my liking)
That is all I can think of right now


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10 May 2007, 10:09 am

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