How would you describe this generation of18 to 25 year olds?

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Not true!

Many women were forced into prostitution in the Victorian era. Women have been raped, beaten, and robbed throughout history.

Let’s see... Which would be easier: staying in an abusive marriage or being a single mother?

Being a single mother is much easier, I’ve found. It’s remarkably easier!

Plenty of marriages these days end for different reasons than adultery. As you say, it's easy to get a divorce, especially when both partners agree on it. In my country the man doesn't have to pay alimony and shared custody of the kids slowly becomes the norm.



Sorry to say, but not a woman unaccompanied by a man. And do you have any idea how many women were addicted to laudanum (with the complicity of their doctors) in the XIXth century?

Look, a lot of the things you admire were real. I'm only pointing out that there was another side of that coin.

It's often easier for parents to separate than to deal with their differences.

Sure, when those are the options.

But there's another option I prefer. It's making sure the person you're with is going to be in it for the long haul with you and that you'll be able to raise children in a peaceful and functional household before conceiving. I understand that it doesn't always work out that way even when it seems like it's going to, but I still feel that oftentimes people could either be more careful about who they're having kids with, or be more careful in the bedroom.

Ahhh okay, so it's not raising the child alone that's easier, but doing so in the absence of an incompatible spouse.

Thanks. This is the type of support I’ve learned to expect from this forum.

I can't prove it, as you've pointed out, but adultery seems almost a matter of course today.

That women could never leave their homes without being accompanied by men seems an astonishing claim, certainly if we're talking about the 40s.

Drug abuse has always been a problem, but it wasn't the pervasive, demoralising feature of the urban landscape it is today.

I don't argue that any historical period was a utopia. Unlike many who buy the idea of the moral superiority of our world, I reject the claim that a Utopia is realisable at all for good, practical reasons. All I'm saying is that in many ways, we're culturally, morally and socially poorer today than our not-too-distant ancestors.

You're very well read and like history - I would guess you're aware that adultery in men was almost the norm for centuries. Now everybody is doing it (with room for notable exceptions). What's good for the goose...

I never claimed a woman could never leave the house alone. They weren't much safer though, especially outside their own class and they were often blamed for it, especially in cases of sexual violence.

I agree with the last paragraph, but I have some doubts about your last sentence. It's a hard choice for me, especially in light of my previous comment about the way the most vulnerable members of society are treated.

Wouldn't it be nice if we could have the technology, the respect for racial minorities and the physical comfort of today - with the bourgeois morals, manners and customs of yesterday.

I'll leave it at that.

I can wholeheartedly agree with you on that!

We would still be more on the outside in the 40s the same as today and we wouldnt have the internet to form our own thing

Pros: There are a lot of things that I really like about young people of today. I tend to love most music and poetry, today's rap music is an amazing combination of both. I'm in awe of the way young people seem to take so naturally to technology. I enjoy seeing a crowd of both boys and girls. It seems that today's generation has learned that friendships are possible among the opposite sex. That's something I always believed in. I like that more young people are getting their degrees in subjects they love, but going to work in coffee shops after college (that's good and bad, but you get my meaning?) It's not all about money to them.

Cons: I moved out at 16, only came back home once when I divorced, for two years. Young people today never seem to truly go away. I like my kids, but I want them to move out and stay out. Come visit, by all means, but don't move back home. If anything happens to my husband, I'm selling our home, buying a camper and leaving no forwarding address. I'll keep up with them on social media. I dislike the way 18-25 year old's behave when they can't access wifi. I don't think there's enough respect or appreciation for what previous generations have sacrificed, so that life may be easier for them. I forget which famous person said, " I am a warrior, that my son may be a merchant and his son may be a poet." Or something along those lines...

I would describe them as being a collection of individuals, just as 33 to 40 year olds, 80 to 87 year olds and 3 to 10 year olds are all collections of individuals.

I'm just calling it like I see it. I'm not implying that what I'm saying applies to your situation. I don't know your situation.

But I see it a lot that people don't choose very well when it comes to picking a co-parent for their child, and then it's the child who ends up missing out.

I was raised by a single mother, and she had to make a choice between being a provider or being a carer, a choice that she wouldn't have had to make if she'd had me with a good quality man who was going to be there for us and all the rest of it. She chose to be a carer, which was a good option for formulating a bond with my brother and I, but it meant that she had less resources to aid in our growing up. I didn't have my own room until I was 18 because the house we were in was so small, and there were only 3 of us in total.

Not to mention, her being a woman meant that there were "man things" that she just didn't have the capacity to teach me. Like, I love my mum, but certain things would have been a lot easier if I'd had a good father around.

My mom was a good mother and a good father all thrown into one. She just didn't have a penis is all.