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09 Nov 2007, 8:03 pm

I have been lacto-ovo-vegetarian since birth and meat makes me ill. My system won't handle it. I have been on a vegan diet up to 4 years, but ate cheese when nothing on the menu and now can't seem to get off it again. I just read an article about a mother trying to get her daughter on a GFCF diet and locked the frig. The poor child screamed cheese, cheese, cheese, cheeeese, and tried to break in for days. There is no one to paddlelock my frig. I guess i am addicted to the low level of opiates in cheese.

I think people should tune into their bodies and give them what they need. I wish my ASD son would let his wonderful wife eat chicken since her body is not healthy enough to stay pregnant. And I want my grandchild. He allows Coke and icecream.

I am not opposed to eating moderate amounts of meat, but wish people had to harvest their own. They would have more appreciation for the animal's sacrifice. I am not a "Vegan" because I am willing to use second-hand leathergoods and don't see a problem with stuff like honey. I am more worried about poisons in food and GMO. I thank my vegetables when I harvest them, but I think they grow to feed us and want to be used. This may be true of animals too, like in the days when people hunted for food or when food for other animals. it is obviously part of a natural order.



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09 Nov 2007, 10:56 pm

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I am not opposed to eating moderate amounts of meat, but wish people had to harvest their own.


[[claps]]

Every meat eater should watch "The F-Word" - a BBC show which does a segment across each season of the chef raising, nurturing and ultimately slaughtering his own food animals. It's really honest and a bit gut wrenching, but it's also wonderful in so far as he's honoring the source of the food that he, and we, eat. I'm sure that a lot of carnivores might seriously start to reconsider their casual acceptance of meat, while veggies might also see this as an endorsement, under the right circumstances, of "it's nature's way".

What's particularly straight up about this is that he involves his wife and children in the process, adamant that they shouldn't be insulated from the reality of where meat comes from.

Anyway, not advocating lifestyle changes here, just pointing folks towards something I found quite honest.

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10 Nov 2007, 11:11 am

makelifehappen wrote:

Tell me this meal doesn't look appetizing!!

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8O

Think I might start eating meat again.....

j/k:wink:

I've been a vegetarian for a while now. Not because I feel sorry for the poor animals being slaughtered but because it's a healthier lifestyle and I think at this point in time, humans are able to find better sources of nutrition other then the carcasses of conscious living entities.



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10 Nov 2007, 11:22 am

Vegan here. I'm not bothered by animals dying for our food, just by the lives the majority of them live before their deaths. At least in the states there's very little regulation on free range and it's no guarantee the animals lived any better.

I'm less bothered by hunted game and probably wouldn't hesitate much to eat it. The animal that's hunted lives out a normal life and dies at the hands of a predator.

In addition to being vegan I don't eat gluten, soy or much refined sugar but that is not for ethical reasons.



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10 Nov 2007, 11:41 am

IronicChef wrote:
Every meat eater should watch "The F-Word"


When I was doing agency work a few years back, I did an eight-hour shift in a bacon-packing factory. After eight hours watching pigs' decapitated heads go past me on a conveyor belt while I bagged up the ears that had been sliced off (so they could be used as dog-chews), I think I understand well enough where meat comes from...


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10 Nov 2007, 4:40 pm

I have raised numerous animals in the past (pigs, chickens, turkeys, rabbits, cattle, goats). I have personally slaughtered and eaten a fair number of them. I know exactly what is involved.

These animals were raised specifically for food. Without me raising them, there is a good chance that they would not even be alive. They have lead a good life. Their death is in a humane manner.

Nowadays, I don't always eat meat whose source I know. Largely due to time and budgetary constraints.

I would agree though. Every person who eats meat should be ethically comfortable with slaughtering an animal. They don't always have to do so (let the butchers have some work). But they should be capable, at least in their mind.


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10 Nov 2007, 7:38 pm

KindaRetarded wrote:
makelifehappen wrote:

Tell me this meal doesn't look appetizing!!

Image


8O

Think I might start eating meat again.....

j/k:wink:


mmmm...tofu turkey :P


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