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21 Aug 2008, 6:20 am

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"To do science properly you have to be open to everything, every possibility must be explored that is how theories ultimately become facts."

I agree, but am not so sure, personally, about the bit where theories become facts.
I choose to not belive, i admit i do not know anything. So i study to try and learn
and understand. Will it lead anywhere for me? Haven`t got a clue.. But i try.



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21 Aug 2008, 6:23 am

ummm... this thread is really tracking offtopic big time :)
sorry about that



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21 Aug 2008, 6:29 am

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I dont trust the human mind when it comes to "evidence".
Its the way i learn and move forward. A personal "thing", not something i try
to push on to others or claim to be true at all. And i dont expect anyone to agree
with me, i see why many cant do that. I`m open, thats all, nothing more. I have
no belives in neither camp, be it science or God. A blank slate. And thats makes
me see things a little different compared to if i where to belive in something.
Some things make more sense to me then others at this point, but i have a huge
flaw, i am human, i am not capable at making that decition for sure.
So you mean you are sitting on the fence? From what you have written it does seem rather contradictory to me, are you saying that you believe in not believing in anything as fact! That is a unique viewpoint I have not come across before but hey we're all different and I'm not trying to convince you one way or the other, I am just curious as to why you have so little faith in the human mind? It got us to the moon with rather primitive technology didn't it :D There had to faith in the human mind to achieve that.

I appologise with ImTheGuyThatDidThat we are off topic a bit 8O :D


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21 Aug 2008, 6:36 am

ImTheGuyThatDidThat wrote:
hmm..maybe the electronic age is what triggers it - to many impulses to fast,
to much going on at once - just a thought, sounds a bit weird but anyway


Honestly? I dont think so. I've been thinking about posting a story that a relative of mine(great aunt) said. It was something that she related of her own mother(my great grand mother) who was born in the 1880s. With that story and others, she sounds awfully aspie to me.

I'll transcribe it from the family book and post it in its own topic, with a link to here, ok?


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21 Aug 2008, 6:39 am

ImTheGuyThatDidThat wrote:
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"To do science properly you have to be open to everything, every possibility must be explored that is how theories ultimately become facts."

I agree, but am not so sure, personally, about the bit where theories become facts.
I choose to not belive, i admit i do not know anything. So i study to try and learn
and understand. Will it lead anywhere for me? Haven`t got a clue.. But i try.
One example of a theory that became fact I think I mentioned earlier is flight, men saw birds fly and understandably wished to do the same they knew by watching birds that it should theoretically be possible to make something that would give man the ability to fly, and we all know after a lot of trial and error, scientific calculations increasing the area of the wing above less below to create lift we did eventually turn theory into fact we have airplanes.


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21 Aug 2008, 6:41 am

Fuzzy wrote:
ImTheGuyThatDidThat wrote:
hmm..maybe the electronic age is what triggers it - to many impulses to fast,
to much going on at once - just a thought, sounds a bit weird but anyway


Honestly? I dont think so. I've been thinking about posting a story that a relative of mine(great aunt) said. It was something that she related of her own mother(my great grand mother) who was born in the 1880s. With that story and others, she sounds awfully aspie to me.

I'll transcribe it from the family book and post it in its own topic, with a link to here, ok?
Yeah I do wonder how long us aspies have been around we must have a common aspie ancestor I guess? If not I can't think how it arose in the first place.


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21 Aug 2008, 6:56 am

intense wrote:
ImTheGuyThatDidThat wrote:
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"To do science properly you have to be open to everything, every possibility must be explored that is how theories ultimately become facts."

I agree, but am not so sure, personally, about the bit where theories become facts.
I choose to not belive, i admit i do not know anything. So i study to try and learn
and understand. Will it lead anywhere for me? Haven`t got a clue.. But i try.
One example of a theory that became fact I think I mentioned earlier is flight, men saw birds fly and understandably wished to do the same they knew by watching birds that it should theoretically be possible to make something that would give man the ability to fly, and we all know after a lot of trial and error, scientific calculations increasing the area of the wing above less below to create lift we did eventually turn theory into fact we have airplanes.


Yes you have a good point, i see the logic. I see things fly, but, i dont belive flight is what
we belive it to be, simply put - but it is very interesting and you have some good points.



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21 Aug 2008, 6:59 am

intense wrote:
Fuzzy wrote:
ImTheGuyThatDidThat wrote:
hmm..maybe the electronic age is what triggers it - to many impulses to fast,
to much going on at once - just a thought, sounds a bit weird but anyway


Honestly? I dont think so. I've been thinking about posting a story that a relative of mine(great aunt) said. It was something that she related of her own mother(my great grand mother) who was born in the 1880s. With that story and others, she sounds awfully aspie to me.

I'll transcribe it from the family book and post it in its own topic, with a link to here, ok?
Yeah I do wonder how long us aspies have been around we must have a common aspie ancestor I guess? If not I can't think how it arose in the first place.


I`ve been wondering a little about that myself.. when looking back in history
there seem to be people with alot of these "Aspie-traits", usually they stuck out
as a little weird or something. Maybe its been here all along, we just didnt notice it,
after all, theres is alot of things going on all the time



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21 Aug 2008, 7:01 am

ImTheGuyThatDidThat wrote:
intense wrote:
ImTheGuyThatDidThat wrote:
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"To do science properly you have to be open to everything, every possibility must be explored that is how theories ultimately become facts."

I agree, but am not so sure, personally, about the bit where theories become facts.
I choose to not belive, i admit i do not know anything. So i study to try and learn
and understand. Will it lead anywhere for me? Haven`t got a clue.. But i try.
One example of a theory that became fact I think I mentioned earlier is flight, men saw birds fly and understandably wished to do the same they knew by watching birds that it should theoretically be possible to make something that would give man the ability to fly, and we all know after a lot of trial and error, scientific calculations increasing the area of the wing above less below to create lift we did eventually turn theory into fact we have airplanes.


Yes you have a good point, i see the logic. I see things fly, but, i dont belive flight is what
we belive it to be, simply put - but it is very interesting and you have some good points.
Thanks :D it's been great chatting to you it's very interesting I would love to know what you believe flight is but I fear we would de-rail this poor thread again :lol:


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21 Aug 2008, 7:16 am

For me I think perhaps autism specifically asperger's might be humans re-evolving. For those of you who are confused I believe after the entire incident at the garden of eden we started down the path of devolution, we did what we wanted and we started to breed in a bad way. So after thousand and thousands of year or however long it took we destroyed our once perfects genes and we are just now recovering and starting to evolve back to what we once were.


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21 Aug 2008, 7:39 am

^
^ i`ll just answer a quick Q, and then this trailing off has to stop for me :)
""I am just curious as to why you have so little faith in the human mind?""

I sound like i have no confidence in the mind at all dont i, thats a little off, its
capable of doing fantastic things. But at the same time it also have the
power to confuse, showing things in thin air thats not really there, et ceterea
A lot of things happen only in the mind but it can be pulled into the real world
for different reasons. So, the mind is a marvelous tool, but i dont trust it fully,
its hard to take big decitions when knowing the thing that runs me/all of us might fail
in a number of ways, and still leave me with an impression that i am right, even if
i`m dead wrong, that makes it a little harder to be sure. But, if i one day get sure of
something being 100%, then i`m going to be really really sure of it probably :)
time will tell



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21 Aug 2008, 7:41 am

It's a mutation; an accident.
But! It has it's benefits; and in this technocentric world, those benefits are ideal, or at least for those who possess them.
How is that not evolution? How does the exercise of traits to a suited environment deny evolution?
That is evolution! Evolution is the process of embedded characteristis passing through generations.
So-called "short" evolution is visible always; Australians are beginning to be visibly distinct to the British, generations in regions of higher or lesser sunlight have darker or lighter skin colours over generations. That is the most basic expression of evolution.
Other such things are cultural, environmental, etc. Plainsmen rode horses, and developed statures as such.
Birds originally jumped, then glided, then flew. They weren't technically birds then, closer to dinosaurs, but still, that IS why it's evolution, after all.

Besides; we are the only ones with evidence. Namely, fossils pre-dating when you religious-types claim the universe was created.
Why do you suggest, also, that the world is specifically created by god, and men created in this gods image?
This is a dirty little backwater planet on the edge of a galaxy on the edge of the universe. If any "god" created this; I doubt that they would care. That's about the equivalent of giving a damn about a tiny, rural little chinese village of four dozen that has never had contact with the outside world, and has never seen technology.
If your god is like that; he needs a hobby. He should try golf.


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21 Aug 2008, 8:30 am

So what are the evolutionary traits of AS?


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21 Aug 2008, 8:48 am

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So what are the evolutionary traits of AS?


We can do the Psy-wave attack. 8)



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21 Aug 2008, 9:05 am

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So what are the evolutionary traits of AS?
That it’s a widespread physiological mutation/difference of the brain that causes us to behave differently, some would call that evolving others would call it a fault personally I don’t know.

I'm just happy my brain works at all :D


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21 Aug 2008, 9:39 am

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So what are the evolutionary traits of AS?


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