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07 Oct 2018, 5:45 am

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Can bullying be so covert that you don't even know you're doing it?

Bullying can be blatant and the person doing it can still not know that what they are doing is bullying. There's a point

at which a piece of advice which may have been meant to help has been repeated so many times by the same

person that it becomes like a cudgel against the person receiving it. It's most common among those who think

they have their own s**t together.


I totally agree here.

It depends how it is intended as well as perceived.

But a lot of the time it can just be annoying or frustrating rather than bullying.

I think it crosses over when someone tries to avoid them and they follow.



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07 Oct 2018, 5:57 am

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I was accused of bullying a member here because I posted in the WP Members You Miss thread that I was going to kick a certain member under the table, who I named, who is actually my real life partner, who was not the person who accused me of bullying, but I happened to post directly after that person, so of course the 'bullying' was directed at them.

Bullying.
It's real.

Real screwed up. :lol:

To my mind bullying* involves consistency. If you hadn't named your partner but consistently made aggressive

comments after the same person posted then it might make someone feel you were getting at them. I don't

know how someone got this from one post though. And they must have because any familiarity with you posts

would have told them you were joking.

Maybe part of the problem is we all have a different view of what bullying is.


*Unless extreme.



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07 Oct 2018, 5:59 am

fluffysaurus wrote:
Temeraire wrote:
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Can bullying be so covert that you don't even know you're doing it?

Bullying can be blatant and the person doing it can still not know that what they are doing is bullying. There's a point

at which a piece of advice which may have been meant to help has been repeated so many times by the same

person that it becomes like a cudgel against the person receiving it. It's most common among those who think

they have their own s**t together.


I totally agree here.

It depends how it is intended as well as perceived.

But a lot of the time it can just be annoying or frustrating rather than bullying.

I think it crosses over when someone tries to avoid them and they follow.


Yes, I have noticed there are some members on here who just cannot leave another member alone even after they

have been asked to several times. I find this odd but I also try to remember most on here are autistic and can have

difficulties appreciating other peoples feelings and needs.

There have been times I have had to wind my own neck in because I continued a line of inquiry when the recipient did not really want my input. I usually apologise if this happens or just leave them be.

I also wonder if I sometimes offend others and nothing is said for me to know this.

How many people feel bullied on here but say nothing? This can be a worry.



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07 Oct 2018, 6:21 am

fluffysaurus wrote:
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I was accused of bullying a member here because I posted in the WP Members You Miss thread that I was going to kick a certain member under the table, who I named, who is actually my real life partner, who was not the person who accused me of bullying, but I happened to post directly after that person, so of course the 'bullying' was directed at them.

Bullying.
It's real.

Real screwed up. :lol:

To my mind bullying* involves consistency. If you hadn't named your partner but consistently made aggressive

comments after the same person posted then it might make someone feel you were getting at them. I don't

know how someone got this from one post though. And they must have because any familiarity with you posts

would have told them you were joking.

Maybe part of the problem is we all have a different view of what bullying is.


*Unless extreme.

Well, how do I know that I didn't post a lot of comments after that person that they might have felt were directed at them?

That was why I was wondering if you can bully without realising it.
Probably.


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07 Oct 2018, 6:22 am

Raleigh wrote:
I was accused of bullying a member here because I posted in the WP Members You Miss thread that I was going to kick a certain member under the table, who I named, who is actually my real life partner, who was not the person who accused me of bullying, but I happened to post directly after that person, so of course the 'bullying' was directed at them.

Bullying.
It's real.

Real screwed up. :lol:


Now I feel bad for bringing it up , sorry , the whole sordid event had an effect on a lot of us. I haven't fully processed it and I can see you haven't either. Sorry dude I wouldn't of dragged up the past if I knew it would do a number on you , maybe I'm a covert bully :roll: oh no I'm a c**t that's right I keep forgetting myself.


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07 Oct 2018, 6:26 am

Raleigh wrote:
fluffysaurus wrote:
Raleigh wrote:
I was accused of bullying a member here because I posted in the WP Members You Miss thread that I was going to kick a certain member under the table, who I named, who is actually my real life partner, who was not the person who accused me of bullying, but I happened to post directly after that person, so of course the 'bullying' was directed at them.

Bullying.
It's real.

Real screwed up. :lol:

To my mind bullying* involves consistency. If you hadn't named your partner but consistently made aggressive

comments after the same person posted then it might make someone feel you were getting at them. I don't

know how someone got this from one post though. And they must have because any familiarity with you posts

would have told them you were joking.

Maybe part of the problem is we all have a different view of what bullying is.


*Unless extreme.

Well, how do I know that I didn't post a lot of comments after that person that they might have felt were directed at them?

That was why I was wondering if you can bully without realising it.
Probably.


Dude , you know I can show you messages proving what a dark place that member was in and the things that member thought were going on , and me trying to help them rationalise things , then being turned on coz I'm clearly part of the covert bullying campaign. If you had posted the word 'fish' it would of been misconstrued


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07 Oct 2018, 6:27 am

Temeraire wrote:
fluffysaurus wrote:
Temeraire wrote:
fluffysaurus wrote:
Raleigh wrote:
Can bullying be so covert that you don't even know you're doing it?

Bullying can be blatant and the person doing it can still not know that what they are doing is bullying. There's a point

at which a piece of advice which may have been meant to help has been repeated so many times by the same

person that it becomes like a cudgel against the person receiving it. It's most common among those who think

they have their own s**t together.


I totally agree here.

It depends how it is intended as well as perceived.

But a lot of the time it can just be annoying or frustrating rather than bullying.

I think it crosses over when someone tries to avoid them and they follow.


Yes, I have noticed there are some members on here who just cannot leave another member alone even after they

have been asked to several times. I find this odd but I also try to remember most on here are autistic and can have

difficulties appreciating other peoples feelings and needs.

The stupid thing is that I find myself being more judgmental the more intelligent someone sounds. I think "how

can you not know that was hurtful." But that's the same rule that gets used against me when people explode over

me "you must have known/seen/understood, you're not stupid."

I'm a hypocrite.

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There have been times I have had to wind my own neck in because I continued a line of inquiry when the recipient did not really want my input. I usually apologise if this happens or just leave them be.

I also wonder if I sometimes offend others and nothing is said for me to know this.

I haven't been stalking you around WP but I would be very surprised if this was the case.
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How many people feel bullied on here but say nothing? This can be a worry.
I think more people feel ignored.



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07 Oct 2018, 6:28 am

Also sometimes one falls into the trap of bullying a bully.



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07 Oct 2018, 6:29 am

^^ I know, I know.

But it still gobsmacks me.

The

W


T


F


of it.


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07 Oct 2018, 6:29 am

EzraS wrote:
Also sometimes one falls into the trap of bullying a bully.


guilty as charged , I can't help it


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07 Oct 2018, 6:31 am

Raleigh wrote:
^^ I know, I know.

But it still gobsmacks me.

The

W


T


F


of it.


My GF keeps asking why certain people do certain things and I can answer some of the time but when that person has mental health issues it's just a case of 'crazy is as crazy does' and that's the only answer that I can come up with


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07 Oct 2018, 6:35 am

fish>sounds like dish>which you have lunch on>lunch sounds like hunch>I have a hunch>it must be true :shaking2:


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07 Oct 2018, 6:36 am

^^Yeah.


Just for that I'm going to send you PMs of dead people.

Were they dead people?

I can't remember.

Probably because I never sent any,


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07 Oct 2018, 6:39 am

Do i need to intervene? Falsely accusing someone of bullying is also bullying.

I don't care why some people bully, whether they're crazy, suicidal or whatnot, in my book they just need to be stopped.

For the record "dear you" thread has been cleaned.



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I think I still need trauma counselling.


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07 Oct 2018, 6:40 am

Raleigh>Is a make of bike>bikes have two wheels>wheels sound like heels>heels are on shoes>shoes have soles>a sole is a fish>there's that fish again>the devil takes souls>thus Raleigh is the Devil :twisted: OMG I just worked it out aaaaarrrgghhhhhhh!


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