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25 Jul 2016, 1:28 am

^ so you're planning to make it to 80 then?


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25 Jul 2016, 2:09 am

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^ so you're planning to make it to 80 then?


LOL

With my lifestyle I'll be lucky to last four more years to 30.

Besides you know better then that about me, I think we are in the great tribulation or will be as soon as Israel rebuilds the temple which they want to do now and are trying to make it happen. As soon as the temple is rebuilt, its officially all over and I don't think it'll take them 50 years to do it.



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25 Jul 2016, 2:14 am

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^ so you're planning to make it to 80 then?


LOL With my lifestyle I'll be lucky to last four more years to 30. Besides you know better then that about me, I think we are in the great tribulation or will be as soon as Israel rebuilds the temple which they want to do now and are trying to make it happen. As soon as the temple is rebuilt, its officially all over and I don't think it'll take them 50 years to do it.

damn. :o



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25 Jul 2016, 2:26 am

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^ so you're planning to make it to 80 then?


LOL With my lifestyle I'll be lucky to last four more years to 30. Besides you know better then that about me, I think we are in the great tribulation or will be as soon as Israel rebuilds the temple which they want to do now and are trying to make it happen. As soon as the temple is rebuilt, its officially all over and I don't think it'll take them 50 years to do it.

damn. :o


Yeah thats what I say when I read the bible, its detail are pretty damn uncanny. Its pretty mind blowing but I don't know, I probably hurt Christianity more then anything because of my poor behavior but I do encourage people to read it for themselves, its... bizarre to say the least. I am kinda wondering if it has such accuracy because of time travel, sounds stupid but consider that John supposedly saw this stuff first hand and the bible also has two witnesses in the end. This makes me curious to know when John actually died or if he has yet because God asks somewhere, can't remember where and google is failing me, what it matters if John lives to the end of time.



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25 Jul 2016, 2:44 am

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Yeah thats what I say when I read the bible, its detail are pretty damn uncanny. Its pretty mind blowing but I don't know, I probably hurt Christianity more then anything because of my poor behavior but I do encourage people to read it for themselves, its... bizarre to say the least. I am kinda wondering if it has such accuracy because of time travel, sounds stupid but consider that John supposedly saw this stuff first hand and the bible also has two witnesses in the end. This makes me curious to know when John actually died or if he has yet because God asks somewhere, can't remember where and google is failing me, what it matters if John lives to the end of time.

when I was 12 my fundie older brother dragged me to a church where a preacher had a presentation of signs of the end times, and among those signs [forgot the bible passages he pointed to for corroboration] was that cops would be out of control and that payback would include ambushing cops en masse, that when that happened it was a bona fide sign that we were in the end times.



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25 Jul 2016, 11:51 am

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Yeah thats what I say when I read the bible, its detail are pretty damn uncanny. Its pretty mind blowing but I don't know, I probably hurt Christianity more then anything because of my poor behavior but I do encourage people to read it for themselves, its... bizarre to say the least. I am kinda wondering if it has such accuracy because of time travel, sounds stupid but consider that John supposedly saw this stuff first hand and the bible also has two witnesses in the end. This makes me curious to know when John actually died or if he has yet because God asks somewhere, can't remember where and google is failing me, what it matters if John lives to the end of time.

when I was 12 my fundie older brother dragged me to a church where a preacher had a presentation of signs of the end times, and among those signs [forgot the bible passages he pointed to for corroboration] was that cops would be out of control and that payback would include ambushing cops en masse, that when that happened it was a bona fide sign that we were in the end times.


I haven't read that yet but to be fair I haven't read all of the bible and other religious text that goes along with it (Yes there are books that are supposedly not in the bible that date to that time period but I would be very cautious with these). However, to be fair the bible does talk about violence and the way it does it is important, its nation against nation and kingdom against kingdom. A kingdom doesn't have to be a nation but rather just a group of people in a given location. Rather it be Christians, police, Muslims, African Americans and even a community of autism. Another thing that could go hand and hand with what he is saying is the bible says mens hearts will fail them, this could mean a number of things but statistically a good number of these cops who shoot people that don't need to be shot have PTSD and are war veterans.

I can see how he came to this conclusion cause of the violence in the end times but unless I am missing something and I might, I think caution is a good idea. When you make a blanket statement like that, its not being very open minded. I know that sounds odd coming from a religious nut like me who should be all about it but its important that you don't go over board or add to the text. From what I read that would fit but its not necessary a prefect fit and I think its very important to read the bible and compare to today but not stretch the bible to fit today.

Anyway I am sure Raleigh appreciate me hijacking his (or her, I can't remember lol, sorry!) thread with more religious ramble so I'll stop but thats interesting, I would have liked to have heard that sermon, thanks for sharing :)



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25 Jul 2016, 12:19 pm

Oh one more ramble actually, Kingdom is an interest word cause if you read Genesis you start to get a clear picture of who the nations are today. Jacob who represents Israel has 12 children that represent the 12 tribes of Israel, this very controversial and I have said it before but bloodline is extremely important to what kingdom you belong to. Its not a racism thing and it matters less since we are under grace but there is a very, very, very, very important detail. When the bibles speaks of the sons of Gods migrating with the daughters of men, that is a reference to fallen angels called Nephilim and I want to be clear, all races and ethic groups which came from Abraham are blessed and they are who make up the counties we have today. However, here is the important detail and why I think the mark of the beast modifies you blood. God has grace towards every group and every nation that seeks him no matter what their fathers have done but if you read the bible, God never offers grace where there has been Nephilim. I can name example after example where he destroys whole nations and even the whole world when it has been corrupted with Nephilim.

Why am I bringing this up and risking people telling me I racist? Because its very important to realize who the enemy is, minorities and Muslim and every other group of people that might catch discrimination is not the enemy. Its extremely important to guard your bloodline in my opinion, thats why I would die before I get a blood transfusion. These Nephilim didn't just go away, they are here and that is who the enemy is. Its sad to me that Abraham's children kill one another for no reason, I believe the Nephilim is who is going to instigate this violence.

BTW, its important to note that Nephilim is a bloodline not a race or ethic group.



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25 Jul 2016, 3:26 pm

Hey, guys! I'm back! I have a wonderful vacation at my aunt and uncle's place; so much so that I cried over and over again last night because I wanted to stay so badly.


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25 Jul 2016, 4:25 pm

it is fairly tempting to believe that the existential quickening going on down here on earth is but a result of disaffected demons and fallen angels messing with us.



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25 Jul 2016, 4:33 pm

^Actually it's because of humans allowing their minds and egos to control them. To avoid a horribly long post, I suggest reading Eckhart Tolle's books [especially The Power of Now and New Earth].


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25 Jul 2016, 5:42 pm

Kuraudo777 wrote:
^Actually it's because of humans allowing their minds and egos to control them. To avoid a horribly long post, I suggest reading Eckhart Tolle's books [especially The Power of Now and New Earth].


I know what I believe but I respect all opinions and I will read this book, thank you.

In fact I am open to all religions and opinions and I have even read parts of the Quran. I admittedly have a Christian bias but I find all religious text interesting regardless of my opinion of it. I would not say that everything in Quran is correct but for that matter I would not say everything in the bible is correct, mostly because of translation errors but you get the idea.



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26 Jul 2016, 1:35 am

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26 Jul 2016, 1:37 am

^^^^ :alien: i'd buy THAT for a dollar! :alien:



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26 Jul 2016, 1:44 am

^ :P
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26 Jul 2016, 1:51 am

You know while we are on the topic of where life came from, I admit I struggle with the aspect of Christianity that says that God has always existed and always will exist. This is kinda a problem for the logic side of my brain, everything needs a beginning and an end in my mind. How can God can know what is going to happen an infinite amount of time in the future, it makes very little sense. However, I get pass this by trying to realize that there is another level of time. I don't think time is exactly linear and going in one direction, I try and think of time as a picture. There is a time and place for everything in this picture. I think heaven is a place where you can relive any given experience but I don't think its linear.

I believe life and time don't necessary go together.



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26 Jul 2016, 1:55 am

Time is cyclic.
That's why 'God' knows all - He's been there before countless times.


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