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16 Oct 2012, 5:56 am

AnotherKind wrote:
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there is no such thing as "random".
every manifestation that takes place in the universe takes place because it is inevitable.

from a human perspective, "inevitability" is an amorphous notion.
but ultimate inevitability is the result of all preceding modifiers to the current circumstance ,
and the current circumstance was caused by precedents that were not accidental.

i do not believe in either accidents or miracles. they are very closely related to each other


I think that "circumstance" therefore - in this context - an inevitable past can't affect an inevitable future.

i am not quite sure what you are saying. i think the past and the future are just opposite directions away from "now" (which is a point in time). anyway, this is the "random" thread, and so i guess it may not be the place for a detailed discussion, but never the less, i think that there are an infinite number of universes that all follow an inevitable course of manifestation based upon the possibilities that are most likely to eventuate in each universe.
since nothing is impossible, then all possibilities will eventually be actuated somewhere some time, and since an infinite number of possibilities exists at any given instant of time,
then they must all actuate simultaneously in all their respective universal manifestations.

what will happen in the entirety of the life of our material universe will only be able to be determined after there is too little bound energy to cause a further occurrence, and then the history of the universe will be able to be seen as inevitable given the conditions in the instant of this big bang we all live in when it sprang into existence.

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They are either already there, either they aren't there and it is only a perception.

well i have never been outside of my head, so all i know is what i perceive, and what i think about what i perceive. what i perceive may be entirely divorced from any reality. who knows? i do not think anyone will ever know.


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I can't see how accidents and miracles can be related to each other.

well i define an accident as something that occurs "for no reason" that has a negative result. when people say "i was involved in an accident", i think they really mean "i made a mistake" or "i could not control something that rapidly led to a negative result", but i have always thought of the word "accident" as a situation where everyone scratches their heads wondering what went wrong, and no cause can be found, therefore some people see it as "bad luck" (which is an example of magical thinking).

i looked up the definition tonight and found that the word "accident" does not mean what i thought it fundamentally meant, but if the word "accident" meant what i believed it to mean, then it would mean the opposite of "miracle" which i think means "something that happens with no cause that has a beneficial result"

so therefore, "i have nothing random to say", but that is inappropriate to post in a thread titled "got anything random to say".



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16 Oct 2012, 6:01 am

Mmm...... beef stew. :D


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16 Oct 2012, 6:12 am

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16 Oct 2012, 6:17 am

OK..... I love to cook. Gotta get my cookbooks out!


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16 Oct 2012, 6:20 am

Sometimes you've just gotta do whats right for yourself


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16 Oct 2012, 6:21 am

i've noticed that my education classmate uses the word ret*d less frequently with me now but still uses it with others. what does that mean? i will need to work on him(or work him over) some more.



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16 Oct 2012, 6:28 am

equestriatola wrote:
Mmm...... beef stew. :D


i used to wonder whether flies got bored with nothing to think about except the "smells" that were in their vicinity. i never could work it out.
i guess i never saw a fly suffering from depression, so i surmise that they do not get horribly bored.



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16 Oct 2012, 7:00 am

Speaking of flies, I recall seeing science news on how insects can be 'mind controlled' by parasites. There is a parasite called a 'hairworm' that is able to control the brains of grasshoppers, and the hairworms need to get into the water in order to mate. So they inject proteins into the grasshopper's brain and the grasshopper jumps into a nearby water source, drowns, and the hairworms crawl out and start mating again.



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16 Oct 2012, 7:06 am

Flies? UGH. I hate 'em.


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16 Oct 2012, 7:28 am

equestriatola wrote:
Flies? UGH. I hate 'em.

i poured my heart out one day to a housefly who stood still for the almost entire time it took me to tell it my life's story, but just before i got to the punchline, it few away, and despite me ringing the police and giving them a description of the fly, it was never found!! !.

they did not employ all their resources in finding the fly because the fly did not actually break the law.

even if it was found that the fly did break the law, i forget the facial features of that fly, so i could never identify it in a line-up.


insects are truly rather smart,



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16 Oct 2012, 7:29 am

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Constantly taking homophobic abuse, even though I'm not gay just because I won't get involved with the degenerates of today. And I'm supposed to respect females?


So, you say your not gay, which sort of implies you like females
and want to touch them and feel them and get lost in their eyes and fantasise about their goodies and associated ...whoa!
ahem.

um,
YES!
You will respect females, because they're you mother and your sister and your lover and bearer of your children
and the object of your desire in unaccounted fantasies...
actually,
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And I'm supposed to respect females?


That's SO misogynistic, I wonder if "the degenerates of today"
already own you?


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16 Oct 2012, 7:45 am

Glad I woke up very early today. Laundry time for me this mornin'. :D


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16 Oct 2012, 7:46 am

It's raining some


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16 Oct 2012, 8:35 am

Ugh...politics! :x


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16 Oct 2012, 8:43 am

The second ep of Press Your Luck has not been seen since its original broadcast in 1983........ nice to see it.


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16 Oct 2012, 9:14 am

I hope no-one wants to talk to me today, I'm really not up for conversation.


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