Does it upset you when ill people reproduce?

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A lot of vasectomies...

No, it doesn't upset me to see ill people reproduce. Sure, it would be nice if more people adopted, but I can understand why people want to have their own blood children. You can't really say to people they can't reproduce because of an illness, because that's discriminatory and not fair to them.

I would rather be dead, or horrifically mutilated.

I don't fully identify as a female, and certainly not as a baby machine.

Perhaps what CockneyRebel meant was more along the lines of,

"I think that every person on this planet should have a right to procreate."

Or perhaps that's ambiguous too, ... more along the lines of not having the government controlling the reproduction of the populace. But rather letting each couple decide on their own about whether they want a child, instead of having the government getting involved where it should not be.

To be honest, none of these things sound genetic. In fact, most of them sound like likely results of nutritional deficiencies.

I don't have any problems with anyone having kids as long as they can afford them. If the kids are going to become a burden on others, then I'd prefer they not have them.

People do think feeling that way is harsh, but I agree with you. If a person has one, let alone a plethora of medical conditions that can be passed down to their offspring or if they have a disorder that is likely to greatly shorten their life, that they are fully aware of, it seems very selfish to me for them to reproduce. If a person really want a child and are capable of caring for one, there are many children who would love to be adopted.

I actually have an autoimmune disorder and such disorders run in my family. Shortly after being diagnosed with the disease I decided I would never have children if for no other reason than my medical condition.

Spacers were the first humans to emigrate from Earth and colonize the 50 Spacer Worlds in Asimov's Foundation universe. They practiced strict population control to maintain a high standard of living on their planets, and especially on Solaria, the babies were 'screened' for any kind of illness. If for some reason someone developed something like any metabolic disorders or anything on Solaria, if they're married, the mariage would be, like annulled, and if they already had children, the fetologist would have to find the children at the baby farm, and Gladia didn't say, but I guess they would be euthanized.

sickle cell enimia..have bth genes your screwed
have one, and malaria bearing mosquitos arnt that scary

Looking at how this has been implemented in China, I think that lots of vasectomies would be the very least thing to have to worry about

Ah....Eh, scary

What, did they just stop ()?

No, they just murdered new born babies that were girls..............

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M.

Oh, right. I knew that. :S I really did. Just didn't occur to me.

no i dont upset me every women should have a chance to mother a child.

I'm sorry, I really don't want to sound cold or mean or inhumane or whatever you guys want to say but, QFT. There's too many people in the world, humans really don't play much of an important positive role in our environment; we have nothing to offer for this world. We are unnecessary IMO, which is (one way of thinking about) why nature allows us to ignore many of its rules.

You can delve on ethics all you want, but the biological purpose of reproduction, of survival of the fittest etc, is to further the genetic quality of a species, not to recede it. Line drawing has been and will always be a problem for ethical issues, but if you think about this from a biological perspective you might better see it from the other side.

What I'm really trying to get at is, yes very well a government should not have a say in who can and cannot procreate; everyone should have that right. But realize that there is a growing problem genetically and quantitatively with our species, and (I know this is hard to do) separate that thought entirely from humanity. Don't think about the issues that humans create, don't think about humanized "solutions", just realize that humans are overpopulating this planet, and that there is something very odd about human nature that lets us consciously bypass many of the "rules" of nature.

I don't know nearly enough to give an exact reasoning for this, and perhaps my opinion is misguided or wrong entirely. However these types of things have fascinated me since I was very young, and I haven't yet met someone who could go deeply in to this. If you have any thoughts, feel free to PM me.

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