What is currently legal but you think should be illegal?

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16 Apr 2011, 4:59 pm

@ Tequila
I know that they shouldn't control your lives, but people don't understand the side effects of it.
They take it and the majority of them have really extreme reactions.
There is no warning, the label just says "do not smoke this", because people really pay attention to labels.
Somebody should be the warning voice.
It's not like putting a tax on sugar or potato chips.
There is less of a chance that you will die from that than from this drug.
It is HARMFUL, and people need to know that.
Tell me what you would do, or do you not care if they DIE and go through seizures, paranoia, extreme fatigue, and utter sickness from this underground( meaning not well known) drug?



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16 Apr 2011, 5:03 pm

The cure for things like that is sunlight. Let people know that it is a dangerous and harmful drug. Problem is that you can't leave such things to the 'drugs are bad, mmkay' set as the sort of people who take drugs are likely to ignore them out of hand.

So, yes, publish the dangers of such a drug so that people know how risky and harmful taking such a drug can be. Why is it on the market at all if it is as likely to result in death as it is though, is my question? Why would anyone want to bother?



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16 Apr 2011, 5:12 pm

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The cure for things like that is sunlight. Let people know that it is a dangerous and harmful drug. Problem is that you can't leave such things to the 'drugs are bad, mmkay' set as the sort of people who take drugs are likely to ignore them out of hand.

So, yes, publish the dangers of such a drug so that people know how risky and harmful taking such a drug can be. Why is it on the market at all if it is as likely to result in death as it is though, is my question? Why would anyone want to bother?


its basically a designer drug,
they designed synthetic cannabinoid mixes that were legal and made it possible to sell it everywhere pretty much.
then those specific synthetic compounds were banned and they moved on to the next generation, in the end they will have to use cannabinoids they wouldnt have before because of the side effects.
it's a nasty buisness only made possible because regular weed is illegal.


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16 Apr 2011, 5:16 pm

Legality would be better for any substance because with that we can be more socially accepting towards every living being. People could trust one another a lot more about what they do in their lives and know they can trust the advise and research they come across instead of ending up outcast and less likely to realise the risks of substance misuse.

Natural law could govern the issue of psychoactive drugs and even food if we were all a little bit wiser. Getting to this point is the difficult task,


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16 Apr 2011, 6:01 pm

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It is very sad that many people cannot recieve medical treatment because people with alcohol and tobacco induced illness' fill up hospitals.


As you say they bring in a lot of tax, also victims of nicotine or alcohol addiction will die sooner so their early death saves money in benefits, healthcare, and various other costs too - smokers and drinkers are profitable. It makes me laugh when people complain about the cost of anti-smoking campaigns and free NRT on the NHS, these methods are proven not to work which is exactly what makes them so profitable! Without smokers and drinkers (who are often refused medical treatment themselves) far fewer people would receive medical treatment, ironically smoking and drinking is more prevalent amongst working class and under classes, so this is the lower classes essentially paying for their own poor health, poor healthcare and poor death.

But again, we're getting off the point.


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16 Apr 2011, 6:20 pm

Bloodheart wrote:
Without smokers and drinkers (who are often refused medical treatment themselves) far fewer people would receive medical treatment, ironically smoking and drinking is more prevalent amongst working class and under classes, so this is the lower classes essentially paying for their own poor health, poor healthcare and poor death.


Which is why lower-class people, when exhorted to 'save the NHS' by people who treat them like dirt and often refuse them care, they might well wonder "why bother?"

The NHS, a lot of the time, is more for the benefit of the people in it rather than those people whom it is supposed to serve. Not always, but there is more than a small element of that.



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16 Apr 2011, 9:46 pm

Tequila wrote:
Capital punishment is illegal in the UK and in the rest of the EU - in fact, the major third-world nations I can think of that practise it are… the United States and Japan.

Have you ever seen Pierrepoint? It's about Britain's last hangman, Albert Pierrepoint.



China still does it.



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16 Apr 2011, 11:04 pm

-breeding and selling any animal
-killing any animal
-being rude on public transport..you should automatically give your seat to an elderly person,rude teenagers!



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16 Apr 2011, 11:09 pm

Freedom is precious. I find it sad that so many people are willing to give it up.


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16 Apr 2011, 11:50 pm

Energy drinks.


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17 Apr 2011, 2:25 am

Animal testing



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17 Apr 2011, 2:25 am

League_Girl wrote:
China still does it.


I deliberately didn't mention the PRC.



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17 Apr 2011, 2:26 am

Mackica wrote:
being rude on public transport..you should automatically give your seat to an elderly person,rude teenagers!


What if the elderly person in question doesn't want the seat?



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17 Apr 2011, 2:26 am

TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:
Freedom is precious. I find it sad that so many people are willing to give it up.


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17 Apr 2011, 3:13 am

Minding other people's business.

That being said, civil forfeitures should not be legal. I could come up with a whole list of things it should not be legal for the state to do, but there are very few areas I can think of for the private citizen that need more rather than less legal restrictions.

@Vigilans: What's the problem with hollow point ammunition? You do know that the police use it because it's less likely to injure innocent bystanders due to ricochets and over-penetration, right?


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17 Apr 2011, 4:17 am

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PatrickNeville wrote:
Alcohol (even thought i do enjoy it from time to time, it is still the root of much illness and destruction)
Tobaco


You know that making these things illegal will cause them to be more widespread for all the wrong reasons, right?
Look at marijuana. In the United States, it's generally illegal for recreational uses. Many people only do it solely of this factor: it's illegal. Makes them feel badass, doing something illegal.
If you know anything about Prohibition in the early half of the 20th century in the United States, you'd be able to realize this and hope that we don't repeat one of history's big mistakes.

But anyways, I think pot should be legal here in the US.
I don't really see anything currently legal that should be illegal.


Pretty much what I'd like to post - alcohol could in theory be illegal for obvious reasons, but anyone who knows about the prohibition knows how obvious it is that it could never happen. :| Just look even more recent at gun control and how much that failed horribly.

Would be nice, my brother just got piss drunk and broke his toe, he's going to wake up with a pool of blood on his bed and wonder where it came from. Oh well, that's not the least of his stories, thank god he doesn't drive.

Not much I can think of to illegalize, but I can name plenty of things illegal that could be legalized... I'd start a topic on it, but 1) It's going to start a huge pot debate 2) I don't like starting topics. Who wants to start one?


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