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27 Oct 2019, 9:51 am

Fnord just comes over as a slightly more intelligent version of Victor Meldrew from 'One foot in the grave'.


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27 Oct 2019, 10:00 am

He was talking about “folding in the cards” mostly in terms of him seeking traditional employment in the Western sense.

He’s not giving up on life. He just wants to feel content either living off benefits, or doing something outside the realm of traditional employment...like maybe starting his own business.

That is my impression, based on years of posts talking about this very thing.

I am 99.44 percent certain that the idea of suicide doesn’t enter his brain too often.



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27 Oct 2019, 10:14 am

firemonkey wrote:
Fnord just comes over as a slightly more intelligent version of Victor Meldrew from 'One foot in the grave'.
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Although he is seen as misanthropic by the many victims of his wrath and misfortune, Victor Meldrew is often depicted as an honest, likeable and sympathetic character. Ultimately, many felt that the things that he railed against (e.g., yobbish behaviour, lack of consideration for others, shoddy service, and bureaucratic indifference), were things that he had every right to get angry about. In fact, if anything, most admired him for having the guts to stand up and be counted, as the bizarre misfortunes that befell Meldrew would be enough to exasperate anyone. In the episode "Warm Champagne", his long-suffering wife Margaret defends him ... Victor is in fact the most sensitive person she's ever met. If he weren't so sensitive, he wouldn't be upset by the smallest of things, and that is the reason she loves him (and "continually wants to ram his head through a television screen").
Victor seems to be a perfectly likable chap, don’t you think?


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27 Oct 2019, 10:20 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
He was talking about “folding in the cards” mostly in terms of him seeking traditional employment in the Western sense.

He’s not giving up on life. He just wants to feel content either living off benefits, or doing something outside the realm of traditional employment...like maybe starting his own business.

That is my impression, based on years of posts talking about this very thing.

I am 99.44 percent certain that the idea of suicide doesn’t enter his brain too often.

It enters mine roughly weekly, I may measure with my own yard-stick.

Surely, traditional employment is not the only way to have a life worth living.


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27 Oct 2019, 10:50 am

You’re right. It isn’t. I agree wholeheartedly. There are many examples of this. An ideal situation for some might be obtaining “benefits,” combined with a “side hustle” based on one’s special interest—which might only be a little bit of a supplement to benefits at first...but which might prove lucrative later on, enough to allow the person to get off benefits.

Then there’s the fact that a person staying with the parents beyond a certain age—might end up being essential caregivers for those parents.

You’re a very smart lady, and a mother to boot. I feel bad that suicide enters your mind weekly.

I’m not a father, and I’m not as intellectually accomplished as you are. It only enters my mind under extremely adverse conditions. This is probably a product of “luck” in some sense.



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27 Oct 2019, 10:54 am

Fnord wrote:
firemonkey wrote:
Fnord just comes over as a slightly more intelligent version of Victor Meldrew from 'One foot in the grave'.
Wikipedia wrote:
Although he is seen as misanthropic by the many victims of his wrath and misfortune, Victor Meldrew is often depicted as an honest, likeable and sympathetic character. Ultimately, many felt that the things that he railed against (e.g., yobbish behaviour, lack of consideration for others, shoddy service, and bureaucratic indifference), were things that he had every right to get angry about. In fact, if anything, most admired him for having the guts to stand up and be counted, as the bizarre misfortunes that befell Meldrew would be enough to exasperate anyone. In the episode "Warm Champagne", his long-suffering wife Margaret defends him ... Victor is in fact the most sensitive person she's ever met. If he weren't so sensitive, he wouldn't be upset by the smallest of things, and that is the reason she loves him (and "continually wants to ram his head through a television screen").
Victor seems to be a perfectly likable chap, don’t you think?



Underneath it all his heart is in the right place. There are far worse tv characters to be like .


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27 Oct 2019, 2:00 pm

Fnord, I must admit, you attract the most interesting crowd.

Cberg, the only persons you have to (when necessary) apologize for are: yourself, your under-age children (if any) and your pets (if any). You are most definitely not responsible for actions of any adult other than you.


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27 Oct 2019, 2:36 pm

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Fnord, I must admit, you attract the most interesting crowd...
A man is known by the company he keeps, but a man with no enemies lacks character.


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27 Oct 2019, 2:41 pm

firemonkey wrote:
Fnord wrote:
firemonkey wrote:
Fnord just comes over as a slightly more intelligent version of Victor Meldrew from 'One foot in the grave'.
Wikipedia wrote:
Although he is seen as misanthropic by the many victims of his wrath and misfortune, Victor Meldrew is often depicted as an honest, likeable and sympathetic character. Ultimately, many felt that the things that he railed against (e.g., yobbish behaviour, lack of consideration for others, shoddy service, and bureaucratic indifference), were things that he had every right to get angry about. In fact, if anything, most admired him for having the guts to stand up and be counted, as the bizarre misfortunes that befell Meldrew would be enough to exasperate anyone. In the episode "Warm Champagne", his long-suffering wife Margaret defends him ... Victor is in fact the most sensitive person she's ever met. If he weren't so sensitive, he wouldn't be upset by the smallest of things, and that is the reason she loves him (and "continually wants to ram his head through a television screen").
Victor seems to be a perfectly likable chap, don’t you think?
Underneath it all his heart is in the right place.
The same could be said for Dr. Martin Ellingham or Dr. Gregory House.
firemonkey wrote:
There are far worse tv characters to be like.
Like the principle characters currently occupying 10 Downing Street or 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, perhaps?


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27 Oct 2019, 3:03 pm

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