Terrified that coronavirus is getting worse than better

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10 Mar 2020, 11:04 pm

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Not to mention that being stressed out will weaken your immune system. So stressing out about an epidemic is actually a bit counter productive.


Very good point.



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11 Mar 2020, 9:33 am

Sigbold wrote:
Not to mention that being stressed out will weaken your immune system. So stressing out about an epidemic is actually a bit counter productive. A good and sensible preparation is better.


People can't just choose to not be stressed, though. Or not to panic for that matter. Yes, neither helps, but neither does ridiculing those who are stressed or panicking. It's likely to just make things worse, especially with the panicking people.



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11 Mar 2020, 1:57 pm

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Plain old flu causes as many as 646,000 deaths worldwide each year.


And that's with a mortality of about 0.1%. There are estimates that the mortality from coronavirus is about 3.4% (WHO). So, if the same number of people acquired coronovirus, at that mortality we would expect approximately 22,304,000 deaths from coronavirus in a year.



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11 Mar 2020, 2:17 pm

We may have less to fear of the virus itself than of the stupidity of the people who are supposed to protect us from it.

Recently, a cleaning crew was told that a passenger on an international flight was found to have the SARS-CoViD-19 virus ... and they were told after they had cleaned the plane! They had no protective gear, no protective training, and no advanced warning.

(I'm still trying to get the details.)


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11 Mar 2020, 3:14 pm

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We may have less to fear of the virus itself than of the stupidity of the people who are supposed to protect us from it.


And the ones who won't even practice very basic and easy cautiousness because "it's not such a big deal."

#washyourhands



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11 Mar 2020, 4:59 pm

On one hand I have medical insurance

The insurance however doesn't pay for much

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On the other hand I only have three friends.

One moved to Texas two weeks ago and hardly ever answers the email

The other one, I only see after class

She doesn't always go to class. Sometimes she hangs out with her sister after but she can talk to her sister at any time s**t

The other friend once in a while answers the email



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Paranoid government benefits will deny my worthless corpse too

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Government benefits is not much $$

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11 Mar 2020, 5:19 pm

I had a rubbish year in 2019. Thought I'd go travelling this year. Booked flights.

Worried I won't get to go coz of this stupid virus.

First world problems eh?

At least I'm not in an at risk group. I understand the caution so we don't all pass it on to people it could badly effect



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11 Mar 2020, 10:10 pm

Fireblossom wrote:
Sigbold wrote:
Not to mention that being stressed out will weaken your immune system. So stressing out about an epidemic is actually a bit counter productive. A good and sensible preparation is better.


People can't just choose to not be stressed, though. Or not to panic for that matter. Yes, neither helps, but neither does ridiculing those who are stressed or panicking. It's likely to just make things worse, especially with the panicking people.


But they can choose to manage the stress responses. Or take measures that lower stress.



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12 Mar 2020, 12:26 am

hurtloam wrote:
I had a rubbish year in 2019. Thought I'd go travelling this year. Booked flights.

Worried I won't get to go coz of this stupid virus.

First world problems eh?

At least I'm not in an at risk group. I understand the caution so we don't all pass it on to people it could badly effect


2020 be like:

global viral panemic

US tensions with iran skyrocketed

australia on fire

climate change

kobe dead


9 more months.


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12 Mar 2020, 12:49 am

I'm worried as well. I wash my hands 10 times a day. Stores around the world are facing shortages of toilet paper, soap, hand sanitizer and water.


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12 Mar 2020, 12:57 am

only ten times? casual...


the coronavirus is doing more for the US than any president, more sick days/days off work and school, lowering gas prices, lowered plane prices, less traffic because of that

go COVID-19! coronavirus for president!! :D


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12 Mar 2020, 12:58 am

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I'm worried as well. I wash my hands 10 times a day. Stores around the world are facing shortages of toilet paper, soap, hand sanitizer and water.


I've never used a hand sanitizer in my life. I do use Hibiclens (4% chlorhexadrine gluconate), though, which is far superior.



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12 Mar 2020, 4:01 am

I found this interesting:

"While the impact of flu varies, it places a substantial burden on the health of people in the United States each year.

CDC estimates that influenza has resulted in between 9 million – 45 million illnesses, between 140,000 – 810,000 hospitalizations and between 12,000 – 61,000 deaths annually since 2010."

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html

It looks like they are just talking about flu cases in the United States.

I wonder what the global stats are. Must be petty astronomical if it is that bad in just the US.

And the CDC and WHO are always having to beg people to get a flu shot and use precautions



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12 Mar 2020, 4:11 am

EzraS wrote:
I found this interesting:

"While the impact of flu varies, it places a substantial burden on the health of people in the United States each year. CDC estimates that influenza has resulted in between 9 million – 45 million illnesses, between 140,000 – 810,000 hospitalizations and between 12,000 – 61,000 deaths annually since 2010."

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html

It looks like they are just talking about flu cases in the United States.

I wonder what the global stats are. Must be petty astronomical if it is that bad in just the US.


I'd be curious how the common cold compares, although it might be next to impossible to accurately count cases of it given how mild they often are.


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12 Mar 2020, 4:13 am

Joined the dance... Poland closed all schools for the next 2 weeks.
I'm afraid such outbreaks are kind of inevitable in the global world - viruses have huge population to live and mutate.
Respiratory system diseases are catchy - see common cold. We can control food (salmonella) and drinking water (cholera) but air is more tricky.
I wonder how it shapes the future world.


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12 Mar 2020, 4:18 am

funeralxempire wrote:
EzraS wrote:
I found this interesting:

"While the impact of flu varies, it places a substantial burden on the health of people in the United States each year. CDC estimates that influenza has resulted in between 9 million – 45 million illnesses, between 140,000 – 810,000 hospitalizations and between 12,000 – 61,000 deaths annually since 2010."

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html

It looks like they are just talking about flu cases in the United States.

I wonder what the global stats are. Must be petty astronomical if it is that bad in just the US.


I'd be curious how the common cold compares, although it might be next to impossible to accurately count cases of it given how mild they often are.


There must be a substantial number of cases of flu and especially colds that people do not report in any way. They just self medicate.