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07 Aug 2016, 8:04 pm

Ok so the internet at its core is nothing but computers connected to one another. If your computer is online that means it is basically a part of the internet. Now routers and stuff of that nature have firewalls that prevent people from browsing your computer's files and Windows is configured in such a way that people can't index your local filesystem. Well, the dark net and the deep net consist of shared data between computers that might not necessarily be a server if someone has poor security in addition to encrypted servers like wiki leaks. Basically when your in an index for example deep in the internet, you could be viewing someone shared drive and not an actual server. All computers online make up the internet, my computer though inaccessible is part of the internet. So bearing this in mind sometimes you can access stuff that was never really intended to be accessed if you know what you are doing.

That in addition to intentionally hidden servers make up the deep and dark net.



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07 Aug 2016, 8:09 pm

dcj123 wrote:
Ok so the internet at its core is nothing but computers connected to one another. If your computer is online that means it is basically a part of the internet. Now routers and stuff of that nature have firewalls that prevent people from browsing your computer's files and Windows is configured in such a way that people can't index your local filesystem. Well, the dark net and the deep net consist of shared data between computers that might not necessarily be a server if someone has poor security in addition to encrypted servers like wiki leaks. Basically when your in an index for example deep in the internet, you could be viewing someone shared drive and not an actual server. All computers online make up the internet, my computer though inaccessible is part of the internet. So bearing this in mind sometimes you can access stuff that was never really intended to be accessed if you know what you are doing.

That in addition to intentionally hidden servers make up the deep and dark net.




Very amusing..


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07 Aug 2016, 8:21 pm

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Very amusing..


Its actually true, in fact I sometimes have open ports and by definition if I was to host something on that port then that would be a part of the deep web.

I close all ports that I am not using every night to prevent people from hacking me.

All the deep web means is its not indexed.

In coparsion the dark web is usually intentionally hidden for nefarious acts.



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07 Aug 2016, 8:24 pm

Thank your for explaining everything.. This may sound silly but, no OS is completely secure would you say?


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07 Aug 2016, 8:30 pm

Dcj, do you get annoyed by people asking if 1234-chans are anime schoolgirls and about the scary dark web?

Forget raining cats and dogs, it's raining anvils and school busses here.


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07 Aug 2016, 8:33 pm

kazanscube wrote:
Thank your for explaining everything.. This may sound silly but, no OS is completely secure would you say?


Well any Linux user that actually knows how their computer works would argue that Linux is not unhackable as some would claim so yes I agree with you that statement. However I would argue that some operating systems are worse then others. It all comes down to configuration and setup really. You can have a very insecure Windows or a very insecure Windows, same with Linux. However out of box defaults aren't too horrible for any OS but anything can have holes in it. The most important thing an end user can do is close their ports, number one thing.

You can scan for open ports here,

https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2

Click proceed and then All Service Ports. Everything should be green, if so you are pretty secure, I won't say unhackable but reasonable secure.



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07 Aug 2016, 8:37 pm

I clicked on it and it locked up my puter for some reason. :scratch:



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07 Aug 2016, 8:39 pm

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I clicked on it and it locked up my puter for some reason. :scratch:


Oh stop that, it did not and if it did it wasn't me. Thats a trusted site but that URL may be unique for me, google shields up and try it.



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07 Aug 2016, 8:40 pm

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auntblabby wrote:
I clicked on it and it locked up my puter for some reason. :scratch:


Oh stop that, it did not and if it did it wasn't me. Thats a trusted site but that URL my be unique for me, google shields up and try it.

using windows 10, and yes it did. not blaming anybody other than myself.



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07 Aug 2016, 8:43 pm

Oh well crap, maybe its JavaScript error, what web browser are you using?

Also Gibson Research Corporation who do shields up is a fairly trusted company so that link is safe I promise. Its as trusted as anything else but I wouldn't put it pass being the NSA.



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07 Aug 2016, 8:45 pm

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Oh well crap, maybe its JavaScript error, what web browser are you using?
Also Gibson Research Corporation who do shields up is a fairly trusted company so that link is safe I promise. Its as trusted as anything else but I wouldn't put it pass being the NSA.

it seems trustworthy to me :thumleft: I am using the default edge browser that came with w10. all I know about puters is how to turn them on and off and to click on things to make 'em go and stop. I do know that I've not had particularly good luck with things relating to java. I think it makes my puter jittery. ;)



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07 Aug 2016, 8:58 pm

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Dcj, do you get annoyed by people asking if 1234-chans are anime schoolgirls and about the scary dark web?


No because I don't actually go there that often. I have no desire to break the law and I was on the dark net for a very specific reasons and I didn't find what I wanted. What it was I'll keep to myself but it was information and it was for a valid non nefarious reason. Still it appears to be censored and I am not surprised, not surprised at all.



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07 Aug 2016, 9:16 pm

dcj123 wrote:
Well any Linux user that actually knows how their computer works would argue that Linux is not unhackable as some would claim so yes I agree with you that statement. However I would argue that some operating systems are worse then others. It all comes down to configuration and setup really. You can have a very insecure Windows or a very insecure Windows, same with Linux. However out of box defaults aren't too horrible for any OS but anything can have holes in it. The most important thing an end user can do is close their ports, number one thing.

You can scan for open ports here,

https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2

Maybe I'm too hardcore, but I prefer good ol'
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sudo nmap -O localhost
ran on ZSH, at least neither of my Arch boxes freeze with it :D.



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07 Aug 2016, 9:22 pm

I hope trump just blows away in the breeze, just like any other kinda bad air.



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07 Aug 2016, 9:26 pm

Foobaz wrote:
dcj123 wrote:
Well any Linux user that actually knows how their computer works would argue that Linux is not unhackable as some would claim so yes I agree with you that statement. However I would argue that some operating systems are worse then others. It all comes down to configuration and setup really. You can have a very insecure Windows or a very insecure Windows, same with Linux. However out of box defaults aren't too horrible for any OS but anything can have holes in it. The most important thing an end user can do is close their ports, number one thing.

You can scan for open ports here,

https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2

Maybe I'm too hardcore, but I prefer good ol'
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sudo nmap -O localhost
ran on ZSH, at least neither of my Arch boxes freeze with it :D.


Nice, I love Arch Linux, what are you using for a Desktop. I am using kde at the moment and its good.



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07 Aug 2016, 9:36 pm

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Nice, I love Arch Linux, what are you using for a Desktop. I am using kde at the moment and its good.

I have LXDE on the machine I'm typing this, GNOME 3 on an Asus X205TA (Arch is the only distro where I don't feel GNOME to be laggy), and a headless (no desktop environment; raw terminal only) home server. Last time I checked (two years ago?), the KDE folks were transitioning from Plasma v4 to v5... and, at least for me, it was a great mess. KDE itself often crashed when tweaking the visual preferences. So, I moved to XFCE and have been happy with it 'till now. Maybe I should give KDE another try :D ?