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07 Aug 2016, 9:37 pm

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I hope trump just blows away in the breeze, just like any other kinda bad air.

Seemingly, his popularity has dramatically been fading away now that both parties have had their conventions over.



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07 Aug 2016, 9:43 pm

Um I don't know, kde has giving me some trouble but nothing I can't fix. I ran pure plasma 5 as a beta even when 4 was in the repository so most everything has worked the last couple of versions, it broken completely one day after updating but it appeared to be a bad update because an update the next day fixed it. I used spectrwm in the meantime, I like tiling window managers but I find them to restrictive for daily use. Anyway kde seems as stable as its going to get the last few updates.



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07 Aug 2016, 9:46 pm

Foobaz wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
I hope trump just blows away in the breeze, just like any other kinda bad air.

Seemingly, his popularity has dramatically been fading away now that both parties have had their conventions over.

the kochheads are trying to reverse this with a fresh infusion of 43 million smackers.



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07 Aug 2016, 9:51 pm

Also Foobaz, say hi to your NSA boss lol

You join the very second I starting talking about the dark net lol

You have to admit thats funny.



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07 Aug 2016, 10:16 pm

I hate Expert Floor 21 on Super Monkey Ball!



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07 Aug 2016, 10:16 pm

I went to GRC shields up and tested out my system to see how secure it was..
I passed though, it indicated strange results which, caused me to go paranoid, But, after doing the test I realize that there was only 3 ports open but, went stealthed upon being probed.. is that a good thing dcj123?


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07 Aug 2016, 10:23 pm

Well first off I am not an expert and I don't do best practice per say so if someone wants to correct me, I am all for it but from my understanding its basically like this,

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Now rather or not those "adaptive behaviors" pose a security threat depends probably to what kinda of hardware you are using to connect to the internet and if there are exploits for your model hardware. For a typical hacker just scanning the net for ports, you shouldn't raise any flags so you should be okay.



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07 Aug 2016, 10:29 pm

dcj123 wrote:
Well first off I am not an expert and I don't do best practice per say so if someone wants to correct me, I am all for it but from my understanding its basically like this,

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Now rather or not those "adaptive behaviors" pose a security threat depends probably to what kinda of hardware you are using to connect to the internet and if there are exploits for your model hardware. For a typical hacker just scanning the net for ports, you shouldn't raise any flags so you should be okay.


Have you ever had that response as, I use a cable modem with my own wired router being Asus RT AC68p and I have the security settings set to max as I also use Bitdefender2016 with all setting on max. along with disabling various features on my copy of windows which, I've learned are vulnerable.Basically shutting off known vulnerabilities as possible


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07 Aug 2016, 10:36 pm

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dcj123 wrote:
Well first off I am not an expert and I don't do best practice per say so if someone wants to correct me, I am all for it but from my understanding its basically like this,

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Now rather or not those "adaptive behaviors" pose a security threat depends probably to what kinda of hardware you are using to connect to the internet and if there are exploits for your model hardware. For a typical hacker just scanning the net for ports, you shouldn't raise any flags so you should be okay.


Have you ever had that response as, I use a cable modem with my own wired router being Asus RT AC68p and I have the security settings set to max as I also use Bitdefender2016 with all setting on max. along with disabling various features on my copy of windows which, I've learned are vulnerable.Basically shutting off known vulnerabilities as possible


Well...

I am not an expert like I said, I get by and I have done some hacking in my day but I don't have an interest in the dark side like I used too. I am far from a security expert but I know some typical surface information if you will. Having said that your wording here is interesting, you said your own wired router. Are there other routers on this network? That scan is going to hit whatever the first firewall is, if there is a router beyond yours, its possible that shields up hit another firewall and didn't even touch your router. This is even more complicated if your modem is more advance as your modem can have a built in firewall. So your first step in debugging is finding what firewall is being hit by the outside and go from there.



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07 Aug 2016, 10:39 pm

Thanks, as I'll explore this information you have provided as well, I shall not pester you any further tonight.


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07 Aug 2016, 10:55 pm

Didn't anyone else notice that Foobaz left when I said he was NSA?

I think the truth might be out there,

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Oh hell I went to the dark net and now the gov is going to kill me like they killed Edward Snowden. I AM SCREWED LOL :mrgreen:



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08 Aug 2016, 6:02 am

dcj123 wrote:
Didn't anyone else notice that Foobaz left when I said he was NSA?

I think the truth might be out there,

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Oh hell I went to the dark net and now the gov is going to kill me like they killed Edward Snowden. I AM SCREWED LOL :mrgreen:


What's NSA?! That means nothing in Australia.

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Kazan-san,

In answer to your question, Shields Up is scanning your external IP address (your router).

I haven't used Shields Up in years since when I used to administer an OpenBSD firewall using pf.

Fully stealthed is usually best but you're at least going to be sending out packets to port 80 TCP which means you'll have some no name high TCP port open above 1024 for receiving.

Best thing to do is to drop all incoming SYN packets ( SYNchronise connection attempts). Make it look like you're not there at all.

I could find you using nmap and guess with high precision, what OS you are using.

Your firewall's going to be useless if someone sends you something like back orifice in an email or you pick it up from a site you browsed to because once established, it'll start sending out packets, and any connection initiated from inside your internal network will be allowed just like when you initiate a three way handshake with a Web server on port 80 TCP.

Your firewall can't distinguish between you initiating it or some virus/malware. Once initiated, your router will do NAT (Network Address Translation) (act as a go between for your internal 'private' IP addresses and your external IP address) and allow the opening of receiving port numbers, in and out.

I'm typing upside down at the moment and my arm's nearly about to drop off. Besides, I've got to go outside in a moment.

Ask me anything you want. I'll get back to you tomorrow.

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08 Aug 2016, 10:27 am

Damn yeah ok basically what ImAnAspie said, that sounds good, I'll go with it but didn't UDP have some exploits too? I think a friend of mine had gotten into some network using UDP. You can have open ports in both TCP and UDP mode or just one and I think it changes a lot of stuff but I haven't dealt with that in a while. I know I hosted some game servers a while ago and used excessively UDP.

NSA is the National Security Agency in the United States and they have a habit of spying and violating peoples rights. Kinda like the CIA but more up front about them screwing people and with rumors of Snowden's death. I would guess the NSA is probably who killed him.

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Do tell?



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08 Aug 2016, 11:42 am

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Kazan-san,

In answer to your question, Shields Up is scanning your external IP address (your router).

I haven't used Shields Up in years since when I used to administer an OpenBSD firewall using pf.

Fully stealthed is usually best but you're at least going to be sending out packets to port 80 TCP which means you'll have some no name high TCP port open above 1024 for receiving.


The shields up test did indicate a pass just that there had been 3 open port but, they went stealthed eventually to pass the test.For the router does have to connect to the outer world as well, I read that that there is usually 1-2 ports open intitially but, stealthed after carrying out business.

Anyways, I do malware/trojans/worms/ scans 3 times a day and have my settings set to max.


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08 Aug 2016, 11:51 am

La la la... :P


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08 Aug 2016, 3:44 pm

I can't wait till Thursday and Friday!! !!