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07 Feb 2012, 3:28 pm

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Maybe it's best the PPR forum be deleted temporaily? :shrug:
Ahh, if only I had admin status :twisted: Why only temporarily?
Indeed. It might work to unite all members of this website. However, the only website that I know prohibits posts for political, religious or sexual nature is the Enya "Unity" fansite.
:lol: :lol: :lol: Enya!! I think a lot of the most interesting and intellectually minded members would probably leave or frequent this place much less often if PPR were closed

Which should give you an idea of the level of intellect of the average member of the Unity website. I stopped posting there on a regular basis years ago.



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07 Feb 2012, 3:29 pm

I don't like the idea of intellectual unity. To me it implies stagnation. Unity through compliance!


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07 Feb 2012, 3:31 pm

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I don't like the idea of intellectual unity. To me it implies stagnation. Unity through compliance!

Ungoodspeak. Samethink is rightthink.



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07 Feb 2012, 3:33 pm

Strength through unity, unity through faith!


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07 Feb 2012, 3:37 pm

Frank: "The man is not normal!"
Hawkeye: "What's normal, Frank?"
Frank: "Normal is everybody doing the same thing."
Trapper: "What about individuality?"
Frank: "Well, individuality is fine--as long as we all do it together."



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07 Feb 2012, 3:46 pm

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... Enya!!

I think a lot of the most interesting and intellectually minded members would probably leave or frequent this place much less often if PPR were closed


Yes I would.

I'd go live with Enya...



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07 Feb 2012, 5:42 pm

Atheists here who hate we religious members
just because we happen to be religious can go eff yourselves. :evil:

[Mod. edit: on the basis that this specific visual insult has been disallowed in avatars I'm going to disallow it here too - and especially because of its deliberately provocative nature in this thread. --Cornflake]


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07 Feb 2012, 5:45 pm

This is a great thread! I am an eclectic pagan, closer to wiccan than anything else, so I hope polytheists are welcome. Although when it gets down to it, I believe that all Goddesses/Gods are One; like a jewel, the One has many facets, that can be seen from many angles, and the facets are what make up the beauty of the One. I was raised Southern Baptist, but I knew from a young age that it was not meant for me. My brother is an American Baptist pastor, and I have had many christian aquiantances ( and a few friends) that are good people and I am glad to have known them. While I will always adamently uphold the right of atheiests not to believe and not be persecuted for it, I think that this thread holds a lot more positive potential than PPR. Blessed Be!


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07 Feb 2012, 5:46 pm

I sure hope so, Rhiannon0828. Blessings to you!


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07 Feb 2012, 5:56 pm

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Atheists here who hate we religious members
just because we happen to be religious can go eff yourselves. :evil:

[Mod. edit: on the basis that this specific visual insult has been disallowed in avatars I'm going to disallow it here too - and especially because of its deliberately provocative nature in this thread. --Cornflake]


Since nobody who is an atheist here has said they hate anybody, right back at you. Why do you think atheists hate religious people? That's just stupid. Don't make assumptions and then pass them off as facts


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07 Feb 2012, 6:01 pm

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just because we happen to be religious


People don't just "happen" to be religious. Most religious claims are claims about reality which are either true or false. If you are making a claim about reality which is either true or false, you need to be able to back up your claim.

If you believe that Abraham Lincoln was never a president of the United States, then you can't defend yourself by saying that you just "happen" to believe such a thing. The only good reason to believe something is to have evidence that it is true.

Religions protect themselves by pretending to not be claims about reality. But they are, mostly. For example, you cannot just "happen" to be a Christian. A Christian is a person who believes specific historical claims about the life of Jesus of Nazareth. It's important whether or not these claims are true.



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07 Feb 2012, 6:02 pm

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just because we happen to be religious


People don't just "happen" to be religious. Most religious claims are claims about reality which are either true or false. If you are making a claim about reality which is either true or false, you need to be able to back up your claim.

If you believe that Abraham Lincoln was never a president of the United States, then you can't defend yourself by saying that you just "happen" to believe such a thing. The only good reason to believe something is to have evidence that it is true.

Religions protect themselves by pretending to not be claims about reality. But they are, mostly. For example, you cannot just "happen" to be a Christian. A Christian is a person who believes specific historical claims about the life of Jesus of Nazareth. It's important whether or not these claims are true.


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07 Feb 2012, 6:18 pm

I still don't get why atheists have basically, such a bone to pick. Particularly toward Christianity. This thread here, just a thread for theists, not even just Christians, I feel has already been attacked by said atheists. Not strongly, but I say significantly more backlash than it reasonably should have. Here's a great example of what I mean, this thread here, about Buddhism. http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt171443.html Only people who had positives to say about Buddhism went into said thread. Now, I don't agree with a whole lot of Buddhist ideas, but it's their thread, they can do what they want in it, I'm not going to disturb it. However, a similar thread gets started for theists, and while it's not been quite as bad as it would be in PRR, we still seem to be getting people "crashing the party." I think it's quite a double standard here people have.



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07 Feb 2012, 6:25 pm

This thread could have been full of awesomepants. But there's far too much beigeandsaggypants going on in here for my liking.



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07 Feb 2012, 6:28 pm

No wonder I feel so out of place here.


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07 Feb 2012, 6:32 pm

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This thread could have been full of awesomepants. But there's far too much beigeandsaggypants going on in here for my liking.


It has lost it's buttless leather chaps appeal.