Being born with disabilities a thing of the past?

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04 Jul 2009, 2:19 am

How many years do you think we have left before the world is wiped clean of people being born with disabilities?

We are moving closer to it every single day, as new tests become common to terminate unborn children with disabilities. The tests get better all the time to 'weed out' the disabled from being born.
Then you have in many countries where the disabled baby is simple euthanized after birth to take care of the problem, and in more and more countries you have the society pushing to make it legal to do this.
For instance (although this article is old, you get the idea, and the story is the same)
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/allow-active-euthanasia-for-disabled-babies-doctors-urge-423059.html
then we have parents being givin more and more right to do what ever treatment to there disabled kid to make them easier to care for, remember the story of the "pillow angle" giving the kid surgery to keep them like a baby to make them easy to handle.
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1574851,00.html
It is that there is no limit to how far is to far when it comes to this subject, so it leaves me no doubt that in the near future all around the world it will be common place and aceptable to just terminate the pregnancy of a disabled child or to simple euthanize it shortly after it is born.
So how long do you think it will take till being born with a disability will be a thing of the past?



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04 Jul 2009, 4:17 pm

It's only a matter of time before people will be hand picking the perfect genes for their child, like they do now with farm animals. sad really.


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04 Jul 2009, 4:43 pm

roadracer wrote:
How many years do you think we have left before the world is wiped clean of people being born with disabilities?

We are moving closer to it every single day, as new tests become common to terminate unborn children with disabilities. The tests get better all the time to 'weed out' the disabled from being born.
Then you have in many countries where the disabled baby is simple euthanized after birth to take care of the problem, and in more and more countries you have the society pushing to make it legal to do this.
For instance (although this article is old, you get the idea, and the story is the same)
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/allow-active-euthanasia-for-disabled-babies-doctors-urge-423059.html
then we have parents being givin more and more right to do what ever treatment to there disabled kid to make them easier to care for, remember the story of the "pillow angle" giving the kid surgery to keep them like a baby to make them easy to handle.
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1574851,00.html
It is that there is no limit to how far is to far when it comes to this subject, so it leaves me no doubt that in the near future all around the world it will be common place and aceptable to just terminate the pregnancy of a disabled child or to simple euthanize it shortly after it is born.
So how long do you think it will take till being born with a disability will be a thing of the past?




Pillow angel ethics wrote:
But the treatment went further: doctors removed her uterus to prevent potential discomfort from menstrual cramps or pregnancy in the event of rape


If this girl is under the constant care of her family, why is that considered?



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04 Jul 2009, 4:51 pm

There may be a significant decrease of disabled people, but I'm sure there will be parents out there who will accept a child the natural way - let it be born and see where it takes them... not every single parent is going to want to play God with their unborn child.


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04 Jul 2009, 7:06 pm

roadracer wrote:
How many years do you think we have left before the world is wiped clean of people being born with disabilities?

We are moving closer to it every single day, as new tests become common to terminate unborn children with disabilities. The tests get better all the time to 'weed out' the disabled from being born.
Then you have in many countries where the disabled baby is simple euthanized after birth to take care of the problem, and in more and more countries you have the society pushing to make it legal to do this.
For instance (although this article is old, you get the idea, and the story is the same)
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/allow-active-euthanasia-for-disabled-babies-doctors-urge-423059.html
then we have parents being givin more and more right to do what ever treatment to there disabled kid to make them easier to care for, remember the story of the "pillow angle" giving the kid surgery to keep them like a baby to make them easy to handle.
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1574851,00.html
It is that there is no limit to how far is to far when it comes to this subject, so it leaves me no doubt that in the near future all around the world it will be common place and aceptable to just terminate the pregnancy of a disabled child or to simple euthanize it shortly after it is born.
So how long do you think it will take till being born with a disability will be a thing of the past?

I'm okay with people being wiped clean of disabilities, as long as it's not anything un-Godlike.



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04 Jul 2009, 8:39 pm

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It's only a matter of time before people will be hand picking the perfect genes for their child, like they do now with farm animals. sad really.


There are three things that shape you:

1) Your genes
2) Your environment
3) Plain chance

So if you don't have, say, the genes that correlate with homosexuality, doesn't mean you won't end up being homosexual anyway. That's why identical twins can end up having different sexual orientations, or being different in their ability to roll tongues. This also means that one cannot fully control how people will be.

Besides, I'm sure the majority of births will be business as usual.

So I find your statement highly dubious.


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04 Jul 2009, 9:26 pm

Pre-birth discrimination who is to decide a child's fate like that only because s/he didn't turn out how you wanted.

Since I'm a male I feel I have no say in abortion but as an aspie this feels wrong



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04 Jul 2009, 9:45 pm

That's so NT.


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04 Jul 2009, 9:48 pm

CockneyRebel wrote:
That's so NT.


What I said?

Hows it across the pond?



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05 Jul 2009, 5:59 am

CockneyRebel wrote:
That's so NT.


So who cares? Is it really such a bad thing?


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05 Jul 2009, 6:48 am

I feel that it is a bad thing, because every child who's born into this world has something to offer, whether they have a disability, or not. I'd hate to see people without disabilities wiped out of the gene pool and squashed like a bug, by their perfectionist mothers, just because their expectations are far too high, and because they're the spoiled ladies of society who only want "perfect" children who will not "ruin life for themselves and their families. It is a very bad thing in my opinion. It's up to God, who's to be born and who's to die. It's not up to Man.

I'd also like to add that I love people who have disabilities so much, that I call them Sids after Sid from 'Flushed Away'. :O)


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05 Jul 2009, 6:55 am

CockneyRebel wrote:
I feel that it is a bad thing, because every child who's born into this world has something to offer, whether they have a disability, or not. I'd hate to see people without disabilities wiped out of the gene pool and squashed like a bug, by their perfectionist mothers, just because their expectations are far too high, and because they're the spoiled ladies of society who only want "perfect" children who will not "ruin life for themselves and their families. It is a very bad thing in my opinion. It's up to God, who's to be born and who's to die. It's not up to Man.


Yeah good point, I was a bit confused when you said "that's so NT" to that other guy. Although I don't believe in god, I think you should just let nature do what it wants. That's kind of what I said earlier on in the post about how eventually people will be hand picking the best genes, I read about it in a science magazine once, and I hope it doesn't happen.

Edit: lol "sids"


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05 Jul 2009, 7:04 am

Everybody's entitled to their own opinions about matters such as this, but I'm strongly against the prospects of a world without people with disabilities and the abortion of such unborn babies.


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06 Jul 2009, 9:12 am

The more I read about disabilities and the brain, the more convinced I become that some scientist will find a genetic cause for Autism.

Then, just like Down's Syndrome, very few parents will choose to have children with Autism.


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06 Jul 2009, 9:39 am

I think it's a good thing, it's a huge step on the way to exterminate ourselves. We are doomed to die because our own stupidety.
Mayby the next ones will not be completly insane.


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06 Jul 2009, 9:47 am

All of this only translate to one thing to me and that is xenophobia.

I'm upset that someone would kill a child that has done nothing but being different.

What is their problem now anyway we're too disgusting to have around cause we're different. They ashamed at the thought of having a child on the spectrum.


Lastly if they're doing it under the basis of they believe we're natural killers. Its like cutting off your arm cause you're afraid of getting it cut.