Random Opinion about Star Trek

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The newest Star Trek film is unlike the other ones in a very annoying way to me: they killed off the Romulans. That and they destroyed the timelime of the TNG/DS9/VOY universe. So the three series of Star Trek which had the best acting, plots, and character development, have been put, in a sense, into temporal oblivion within the Trek universe. I was surprised they didn't include the Borg in the movie with Kirk just for the fun of mixing things up further...

Is it just me, or is the replacement of the Next Generation timeline an annoyance to others as well?

You mean Vulcan and the Vulcans, right?

I doubt the loss of Vulcan will affect the important things from happening, like the Dominion war and Borg incursions. Perhaps some of the players will change (individuals), but the overall timeline shouldn't be affected too much; the Vulcans have probably already transferred all of their knowledge/technology to the Federation; you'll probably see more Andorians and Tellarites crewing higher level positions on starships since Vulcans would refrain from serving in Starfleet (they're an endangered species now after all). Old Spock is a wildcard, but I'm sure he'd stick to any temporal law that's in effect (however, he did interfere in the movie...).

I like how the Starfleet vessels are much bigger (Enterprise looks at least several hundred meters long), and this can be explained due to the Human-Xindi-war (which was due to a timeline change); the small NX-01 and Xindi vessels couldn't stop the full-sized death probe (the large Xindi-Aquatic cruiser was a threat to it). Bigger vessels will usually equate to larger reactors, faster speeds, and a larger weapons outfit.

The new Trek movie doesn't "destroy" the classic timeline, any more than the original series episode "Mirror, Mirror" and its DS9 followups (not to mention the TNG episode "Yesterday's Enterprise") destroyed it. We're merely seeing an alternate timeline, split off from the original by the Xindi War, then later by Nero's machinations.

And the Vulcans weren't all "killed off"; even in the original, it was pretty clearly implied that Vulcan had seeded a number of interstellar colonies, and Voyager baldly stated that Tuvok was born on a Vulcan colony world.

Yes, the new Enterprise is quite a bit bigger than the first one - heck, it's almost as big as the Galaxy-class 1701-D! That makes sense in the wake of the Xindi War, though, especially after the look they got at an Aquatic cruiser (the giant craft that brought NX-01 back to Earth in time to stop the Weapon). And it was built in Riverside, IA, rather than the San Francisco Shipyards, because of Nero's destruction of the Kelvin, which inadvertently turned George Kirk into a hero (in the original timeline, he lived at least into Jim Kirk's adulthood, and so far as we know was never a hero), and led to the honoring of his hometown.

I do wonder if, in this new world, George Samuel Kirk Jr (Jim's older brother) will still be fated to die at the tentacles of a flying jelly pancake...

According to the latest theory you can’t change events, you can only create alternate universes.

As a Star Trek fan who has followed the series for thirty five years I have a slightly different viewpoint. The new Star Trek movie was very good but it represents a totally new start for the Trek franchise. Forget everything you have seen in the past, Kirk, Scott, Picard, Cmdr Data & LeForge, Janeway & Sisko they're gone and will never return in their present form. This is a fresh Star Trek created for the generation who were never even born when Armstrong took his steps on the moon.

I wish them luck. As for me, I have thirty five years of happy memories.

Live long and prosper.

Vanilla_Slice

Spins off into a different timeline, thereby excusing anything it includes,
As a standalone film it's really good.
If it stuck rigidly to canon it'd probably be boring to the average viewer.

For the hardcore fans I'd stick to the series/s, or check out the fan films listed here: [LINK]

The new film was the biggest breath of fresh air to the Star Trek universe since Then Next Generation.
It hasn't destroyed any of the old stuff, simply doubled the stories.
New stories and shows can pick their universe.

This sort of thing happens in Doctor Who all the time.
For example; the Cybermen in the new series come from an alternate earth and not Mondas/Telos.
This doesn't wipe out the Mondasians, it simply makes a new breed.

The same with the daleks... their history is constantly being rewritten as time folds back on itself.

Don't worry - Trek will thrive on this new change.

The Mondasians have basically been abandoned... *sheds tears of oil*

Though I've only been around since 1985 and seen only three shuttle launches on TV, I grew up watching The Next Generation and then the subsequent series based on that. One thing that gets me is that they don't continue to go forward in the future, but, starting with the Enterprise series, have to go back to the past for some strange motivation or whatnot. It would be nice if there were a series based on the adventures of the 29th century Timeship USS Relativity, or even the 25th century adventures of the USS Titan commanded by Riker and Deanna Troi, but instead they have some psychological need to hover around the 22nd to 23rd centuries and redo everything they can.

Meh, by keeping the setting constant, they forgo the trouble of putting critical thought into the scifi concept, and instead get a cheap backdrop for a space opera. The universe has been sucked dry of good story potential, and I doubt we'll be seeing any bold creative moves in the future.

/curmudgeon

Yes, and this laziness of original thought is why certain scriptwriters and producers should meet up with Chrono Legionnaires from the Red Alert universe... http://cnc.wikia.com/wiki/Chrono_Legionnaire

Edit: or from within the Trek universe, they should have a meeting with Annorax of the Krenim Imperium.

LOL

I don't actually know TOO much about Star Trek... but if I did, this sounds like it would definitely bother me on some level.

The thing that bugged me most about the movie was more of a common sense thing: Why the f*ck would anyone ever EVER need THAT MUCH of that crazy red stuff?

But I did like the movie.

i like jeal luc picards voice

"numbah one!"

For Nero the miner? Why, to wipe out all interstellar groups barring one (the Romulan Star Empire), of course.

Things like the galaxy threatening "supernovae" and why the bad guys decided that they needed to drop a large radius black hole in the core of a planet, when just creating one on the surface would be enough to effectively kill a planet, type things bothered me.

Why create a large-scale collapsar in the core of a planet, when that's far more than necessary?

Well, why did the US and the Soviet Union, during the Cold War, maintain a nuclear-weapon inventory sufficient to sterilize the Earth three to four times, when once would be quite sufficient?

For some people, too much is never enough, that's all...

Anything with nazis is bound to be good.

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