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08 Aug 2009, 3:24 pm

Anyone have any ideas or thoughts on this? I always used to think a person's identity was located in the brain, but I'm not so sure anymore.

Do you think it's in the head, or in the entire body, or some place more specific? I just sometimes wonder about the nature of the 'I'.


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08 Aug 2009, 3:29 pm

I put the dent in Identity.

Quite seriously, I feel that it is a resultant combination of the physical, mental and spiritual.



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08 Aug 2009, 5:24 pm

Go to Youtube and do a search on "Tony Parsons". Then, after watching the (mind blowing) videos in order, google the name, also. (There is another writer by that name, so be for-warned. ) The gist is his message is that identity is a pernicious illusion. The freedom that arrives with this realization is truly delightful. Life IS, but there is no one who lives. Life still has infinite , unknowable, intriguing depth. Suddenly troublesome concepts like guilt, shame, or fear of "death" make no sense anymore. There is "just" pure aliveness and wonder and unconditional love.



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08 Aug 2009, 5:36 pm

It's in the foot. You can tell someone by their foot.


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08 Aug 2009, 6:09 pm

It not actually in the brain but in the electric current and chemical present in the nervous system, which in theory make it possible to be copied or stored elsewhere and in other part of the body (but outside the brain most of the system is not developed enough to do more then basic command in urgent situation), only trouble is that the exploitation system is different for each individual making it almost impossible to transfer.


Sorry if you were seeking a less logic answer, but my brain mostly stuck on that mode, which is why I am agnostic (something greater then us is going on but we cannot prove not deny if it is alive or just natural process currently out of reach of fully understanding, and if alive cannot prove nor deny that it is conscious of us or not)

In other word I am very close in thought to a lot of atheist but I consider natural law greater then us. (Science is just us translating the said law in a way a human can understand)

Has for greater life form it just there since I refuse to deny the existence of that has not be proven to not exist so for me it is in the same category then other dimension and the edge of the universe. =p

Just like to keep an open mind since make it easier to accept new fact coming from empirical proof even if complete opposite of what I tough before. In other word for me E=mc² is possibly a mistake but it the best we got right now.


Damn sure went on other subject, but shrug took too much time to write this to erase. =p



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08 Aug 2009, 6:38 pm

Xelebes wrote:
It's in the foot. You can tell someone by their foot.


Can I send you a pic, for a reading?

It's only a foot long :lol:



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10 Aug 2009, 7:54 am

Your identity or mine for that matter is in SOMEONE else's mind... Think about it. it's a primary nature vs nurture argument.



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10 Aug 2009, 8:48 am

Flippant answer: A woman would say that a man's ego is in... but let's not go there.

Who am "I"?
I could lose my arm or my leg and still be "me".

If there is a "me" It must be the brain.



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10 Aug 2009, 9:43 am

It's on a microchip implanted underneath our skin.



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10 Aug 2009, 8:40 pm

DaWalker wrote:
Xelebes wrote:
It's in the foot. You can tell someone by their foot.


Can I send you a pic, for a reading?

It's only a foot long :lol:


Sure, as long as I send it to my foot fetishist br. . . oops, I mean reader brethren and you don't mind.


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10 Aug 2009, 10:55 pm

slashdot wrote:
Your identity or mine for that matter is in SOMEONE else's mind... Think about it. it's a primary nature vs nurture argument.

Very true, it's up too me, to decide exactly how I nurture my nature.

Wombat wrote:
Flippant answer: A woman would say that a man's ego is in... but let's not go there.

Who am "I"?
I could lose my arm or my leg and still be "me".

If there is a "me" It must be the brain.

Modern technology can keep people so-called "alive" without a liver, lungs, heart or brain, therefore it must be the combined result of everything within the human body. Some refer to it as the Soul. When one part fails or is not at 100% capacity, the soul takes over and makes the others stronger in order to remain in existence. This is not a Bad thing, some people are born that way, like people with autism. Though lacking in one area, the autistic person has the natural ability to excel in other areas, some see this as a bad thing, that's their problem. If they choose to feed the negative, the negative will grow. It is also possible to feed the positive side of things, thereby outweighing the negative.
Autism is a gift, not a loss.
(sorry for the rant)

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It's on a microchip implanted underneath our skin.

Very true, it's evidence is proven by the ringing in the ears some people experience, though it can be thwarted with neodymium magnets strategically placed behind the ear, thus shutting down the thought tracking device.

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DaWalker wrote:
Xelebes wrote:
It's in the foot. You can tell someone by their foot.

Can I send you a pic, for a reading?
It's only a foot long :lol:

Sure, as long as I send it to my foot fetishist br. . . oops, I mean reader brethren and you don't mind.


Of course I don't mind, anything to help a fellow brethren.
For an accurate and proper reading, should I remove all nail polish first?



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10 Aug 2009, 11:51 pm

I'm sorry if this comes off in the wrong way, but I find the whole point to be moot. You're looking for a location for something which is by its nature location-less.... the "identity", "soul", "mind" , etc. It's nowhere to be found, because it doesn't really exist anyways. Step far enough back and you watch your own consciousness blend into that of the universal. There is no "you", no individual. The appearance of such is an illusion... the concept of "mind" or "self" that our brains come up with. That stuff is not real. "You" are an afternoon daydream of the undying universal consciousness... What some people try to define as "god". But even that doesn't quite explain it. You'd have to have experienced it for yourself. Perhaps there are others who've been there, and know what I'm talking about??


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11 Aug 2009, 1:27 am

I know exactly what you are talking about, and there is a name forit as well, but that's a completely different topic.
Without rewriting every single life and death that has ever or will occur, Identity does currently exist, and has, and always will.
Even if only in eye of the beholder, or through the speculation of the observer, it is there for all to perceive and receive with choice.
True, in the big picture, we are but a minute pixel, yet every pixel has an origin as well as a destination, and a meaning during it's existence.



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11 Aug 2009, 7:01 am

I know I strugged with trying to answer the question and felt like HAL self destructing. This thread on philosophy is not logic



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11 Aug 2009, 7:04 am

^ :lol:
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14 Aug 2009, 1:39 pm

CyclopsSummers wrote:
Anyone have any ideas or thoughts on this? I always used to think a person's identity was located in the brain, but I'm not so sure anymore.

Do you think it's in the head, or in the entire body, or some place more specific? I just sometimes wonder about the nature of the 'I'.


Prefrontal lobe.

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