How to eat without killing anything

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Being vegiterian is not hte answer -- you will have to killl vegies. The answer is to limit yourself to milk and milk products. Well, milk products don't include yogurt since they kill fruits to make it. But just limit yourself to milk, chease, cottage chease, buttermiilk, etc. and if everyone will follow you, nothing will have to ever be killled again.

I'm sorry, but you forgot all the microbes used in the preparation of dairy products.

These microbes are not killed. On the contrary in order for them to process dairy products they have to disgest them which means they benefit from their nutrients just like us.

That sounds interesting.

But surely those food can't provide enough dietary fibre and other stuff exclusively found in vegetables? You gotta need vitamin supplement or something like that.

If you're a Star Trek fan, there are actually food replicator machines which make food out of atoms in the Star Trek universe. I guess that is the only way to eat healthy without having to kill. But then it is still sci fi. Before that technology is invented, killing is the easiest way of obtaining organic substance.

Anything that makes milk kills in order to do so (even cows eat grass).

FAIL.

You're at the top of the food chain for a reason. Enjoy it.

Here is an idea. Cows already ate some grass, you can't do anything about it. So right now they have milk. Now, use the milk that they ALREADY have to replace grass in their meals. So from now on, don't allow cows to eat grass and instead feed them with the milk that they themselves produce; this would allow them to continue to produce the milk.

I think veganism is absurd. Vegetarianism can work, and can be a good temporary diet, but veganism is just extreme (IMO). I can't imagine life without cheese. I don't want imitation crap. Most of that stuff is gross. Food is supposed to be satisfying in more ways than one. Rotisserie chicken is heaven, and I love sushi. I don't think I'll ever stop eating some form of meat.

Also, I don't think the warriors of ancient time sat around eating fruit, nuts and grass, and they certainly didn't have all of the supplements that we have today. Veganism is for whiny liberals who support Islamo-fascists and "the sky is falling" political propaganda.

Last edited by idiocratik on 14 Aug 2009, 6:57 am, edited 1 time in total.

...eat roadkill?

I did pass a poor kitty earlier this morning on my way home. Hmmm... (kidding)

Sorry, choice of words as universally all-encompassing as anything and nothing make the premise not possible.

This is why I don't mind wearing leather shoes. In order to produce milk, cows must be inpregnated and bear offspring, then the offspring weaned off that milk you are now eating and raised for veal, or butchered for meat (meat from the cows raised on the lean making grass of the deforested Amazonian rain forest is mixed with dairy cow meat in the US to make up the fatty consistancy of what US people want in their McDonalds or BurgerKings). When those calves/steers are slaughtered, the leather is available, so it would be wasteful to not use it . . .

right?

I was a satvic vegan chef for a couple of years. The biggest problem was getting enough nutrients to nourish the body, people had to be eating all the time which is why those cows have four stomachs to digest that grass. It is easy enough to grind salad leaves into a slurry and strain it and then use heat to separate it into leaf curd protien ( a sort of tofu-y type stuff) and make it into a nice salad dressing. It sure beat grazing all day . . .

A diet like that is deadly. One needs fiber.

ruveyn

On that diet, you'd either:

A: Kill yourself in just a month or two. Reason: Insane amount of fat.
B: Gain 50-75 pounds.

You're better off eating something that was killed....

Somehow I don't think the veggies mind dying

You can eat fruits.

The thing about veggies is that they are still alive when we eat them. They only die when they go bad. That's one reason that the nutrition in them is rich. Veggies are like plants that have just been cut.. still alive. It seems barbaric to eat things that are alive, esp. when there was a research study done showing that plants react to us cooking vegetables.