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tk5800
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16 Oct 2009, 12:45 am

there is one thing that bugs me, apart from all the 27981 things, is teenagers not respecting thier elders.

i know its a topic that has gone through some debate, but this is what i think, our grandparents have been on this earth a hole lot longer than us, therefor have a lot more experience than us, we shouldnt listern to what they have to say because they are old, they can and sometimes will help you in a situation.

on the flip side.

what i have said above i believe to a certain extent, yes we should respect our elders but we should do so only if they respect us, some people i know still hold some homophobic and sometimes racist views, we live in a changing society and thier views dont fit to our timeline, but that doesnt meen we should disregaurd them entirly, we should learn from history, not forget it.

our society is changing, but it might not be for the best.



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16 Oct 2009, 5:56 am

yup, to earn respect you gotta give it. age warrants nothing if they haven't learned how to be decent people during all that time on earth.

we're all equals. customary respect is just nice in some ways and in truth it does good to keep order to keep the societal anarchy and is needed in moderate doses at least to maintain the whole charae of order that we all depend on. but i can't respect someone who hasn't earned it in any way whether they're my parents, or an other elder onthe planet.. my dad for example. i respect him as person, but that he expects respect when he can't even respect me fully as an adult capable of making my own decisions no matter how poorly grates on me. time to cut off the training wheels daddy dearest, i need my space, i need to be able to make my own mistakes. if i return later like the prodigal son, so be it, but i'd like to at leats have a chance. respect that please. besides that he seems to just want respect to fuel his self-esteem. i got kicked out of my house because his hurt pride could not handle what he absurdly interpretted as disrespect. things are going better now, we just don't talk quite as much. and the move was better for all parties.


but i've droned off-topic into my personal life. embarrassing.
but a relief to get that off my chest after 2 months :)

some people just can't seem to grasp that while you're still their son, you're no longer their child.


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tk5800
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16 Oct 2009, 5:32 pm

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we're all equals. customary respect is just nice in some ways and in truth it does good to keep order to keep the societal anarchy and is needed in moderate doses at least to maintain the whole charae of order that we all depend on. but i can't respect someone who hasn't earned it in any way whether they're my parents, or an other elder onthe planet.. my dad for example. i respect him as person, but that he expects respect when he can't even respect me fully as an adult capable of making my own decisions no matter how poorly grates on me. time to cut off the training wheels daddy dearest, i need my space, i need to be able to make my own mistakes. if i return later like the prodigal son, so be it, but i'd like to at leats have a chance. respect that please. besides that he seems to just want respect to fuel his self-esteem. i got kicked out of my house because his hurt pride could not handle what he absurdly interpretted as disrespect. things are going better now, we just don't talk quite as much. and the move was better for all parties.


that is another point, not just old people, but many of us cant admit where wrong, in your case your dad kicked you out so that he could stay the victer in the argument, but you got a moral victory, if he had just said "i am mistaken, your right", things would have gone a completely different way.

may i ask as to why you were kicked out, please dont answer if you dont want to