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18 Feb 2010, 2:51 pm

I was thinking of the word Think is it Thank OR Think and is there a difference? Probably a stupid question but I was curious. :-)



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18 Feb 2010, 2:59 pm

I don't really know that much about grammar, so I can't really help you.


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18 Feb 2010, 3:27 pm

The past tense of think is thought, as in "Yesterday I thought about grammar."



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18 Feb 2010, 4:30 pm

It's what they teach in Grammar school...;) Verb-subject agreement; proper punctuation, word usage, and spelling, tenses, and all that stuff that makes learning foreign languages so difficult...;)

Hopefully, You don't has too bee a spelling Natsi or somthin', but it can did say your educated...;)


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18 Feb 2010, 5:47 pm

- I'm thinking of buying some ice cream.
- I thought you already got ice cream when they were handing it out for free.
- They were handing out free ice cream? I didn't think we'd get ice cream. If I had thought that we'd get free ice cream, I think I would have been here earlier.
- I got two cones for some reason. I ate one of them, and I think I'm full. Do you want the other one?
- Oh, yes please, thank you very much.
- No need to thank me. I think it might have been intended for you anyway.
- You've already been thanked. I don't think I can reverse it. I think it's too late.
- Then I shall have to kill you.

...And scene.

Does that help?


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20 Feb 2010, 10:26 am

Vince wrote:
- I'm thinking of buying some ice cream.
- I thought you already got ice cream when they were handing it out for free.
- They were handing out free ice cream? I didn't think we'd get ice cream. If I had thought that we'd get free ice cream, I think I would have been here earlier.
- I got two cones for some reason. I ate one of them, and I think I'm full. Do you want the other one?
- Oh, yes please, thank you very much.
- No need to thank me. I think it might have been intended for you anyway.
- You've already been thanked. I don't think I can reverse it. I think it's too late.
- Then I shall have to kill you.

...And scene.

Does that help?


thank you very much, teacher. you surely have smarts to spare. i am so impressed with somebody from a foreign land with a better command of english than many americans.
how many languages do you speak?



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20 Feb 2010, 10:48 am

auntblabby wrote:
thank you very much, teacher. you surely have smarts to spare. i am so impressed with somebody from a foreign land with a better command of english than many americans.
how many languages do you speak?

Just the two - Swedish and English.


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20 Feb 2010, 10:54 am

I am now a gifted intervention specialist, but I taught English for 19 years on the high school level, and also taught English (writing and composition, and research paper) on the university level. And has already been stated, "thought" is the correct past tense of the verb "think."

Now, for you grammar buffs, here is a good question. I know the answer, do you?

As we know, we are taught in school about two types of verbs---action and linking. Action verbs state action whereas a linking verb is a state of being (The car is blue.) The car is in the state of being blue. Therefore "is" is a linking verb. A linking verb must have one of two things---either a predicate adjective that describes the subject "car" ("blue" was the predicate adjective in the example I gave---blue describes the car), or a predicate nominative that renames the subject, like "The car is a Ford." So that is it---either a noun renaming the subject (predicate nominative), or an adjective describing the subject (predicate adjective).

Now for the question. Tell me what type of verb this is:

The car is here.

Before you answer, realize it is not action because "is" is not an action. And before you say linking, realize that a linking verb has either a predicate nominative or a predicate adjective. The word "here" is not a noun renaming the subject "car" nor is it an adjective describing the "car." The word "here" as it used in the example is an adverb. There is no noun or adjective following the verb "is." So---what is it?


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20 Feb 2010, 11:35 am

Vince wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
thank you very much, teacher. you surely have smarts to spare. i am so impressed with somebody from a foreign land with a better command of english than many americans.
how many languages do you speak?

Just the two - Swedish and English.


am curious, have you any questions or curiosities regarding american english idioms? the reason i mention this is because i worked with a russian doctor [ok, she's not swedish] who told me she was trying to find a mechanic for her ailing car, and she was mystified by the name of the place she was directed to go for repair, a "grease monkey" auto repair shop.



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20 Feb 2010, 11:44 am

auntblabby wrote:
am curious, have you any questions or curiosities regarding american english idioms? the reason i mention this is because i worked with a russian doctor [ok, she's not swedish] who told me she was trying to find a mechanic for her ailing car, and she was mystified by the name of the place she was directed to go for repair, a "grease monkey" auto repair shop.

I think I watch enough movies to be fairly familiar with idioms, but I did do a vlog about the language once...
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nChRkZQWgfQ[/youtube]


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20 Feb 2010, 12:09 pm

glider18 wrote:

Now for the question. Tell me what type of verb this is:

The car is here.

Before you answer, realize it is not action because "is" is not an action. And before you say linking, realize that a linking verb has either a predicate nominative or a predicate adjective. The word "here" is not a noun renaming the subject "car" nor is it an adjective describing the "car." The word "here" as it used in the example is an adverb. There is no noun or adjective following the verb "is." So---what is it?


The word "here" is a locative (the semantic role of the noun phrase that designates the place of the state or action denoted by the verb.)



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20 Feb 2010, 12:23 pm

arielhawksquill wrote:
The past tense of think is thought, as in "Yesterday I thought about grammar."


"Was thinking" is a valid enough expression, though I guess it implies something very slightly different. I thought - "I thought once or repeatedly"; I was thinking - "I thought repeatedly."


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20 Feb 2010, 12:46 pm

Ambivalence wrote:
arielhawksquill wrote:
The past tense of think is thought, as in "Yesterday I thought about grammar."


"Was thinking" is a valid enough expression, though I guess it implies something very slightly different. I thought - "I thought once or repeatedly"; I was thinking - "I thought repeatedly."


Oh sure, "was thinking" is perfectly correct, but not "thank" as the OP suggested.



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20 Feb 2010, 1:44 pm

arielhawksquill wrote:
glider18 wrote:

Now for the question. Tell me what type of verb this is:

The car is here.

Before you answer, realize it is not action because "is" is not an action. And before you say linking, realize that a linking verb has either a predicate nominative or a predicate adjective. The word "here" is not a noun renaming the subject "car" nor is it an adjective describing the "car." The word "here" as it used in the example is an adverb. There is no noun or adjective following the verb "is." So---what is it?


The word "here" is a locative (the semantic role of the noun phrase that designates the place of the state or action denoted by the verb.)


Right, so the "here" answers where about the subject/noun "car." So that defines "here" as an adverb---by answering how, when, where, to what extent about a verb, adjective, or other adverb. So, what type of verb is "is" in the example? It's not action nor linking. So there must be a third verb type?


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20 Feb 2010, 1:53 pm

I doesn't know.


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20 Feb 2010, 2:33 pm

SabbraCadabra wrote:
I doesn't know.


I was in around my fifth year of teaching when I put this sentence on the board without thinking about it. Then I realized the adverb and knew it wasn't be definition a linking verb. I was stumped. I went to another English teacher that had been teaching for a long time---she didn't know either. So I went to a retired English teacher and he told me the answer. I went back to the other teacher and she said, "Yes, that's right, I just couldn't think of it." So I learned by not knowing. I will tell the answer before long if no one gets it.


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